what say ben barber that we will now have a serious conversation about jobs? >> let me go on the record again. [laughter] we will now talk about jobs. one of the ironies is that we're talking about jobs in america. but you cannot talk about jobs in america without talking about jobs in mexico or the lack of jobs in mexico, jobs in guatemala, jobs and the sahara, jobs in egypt. i know in parochial america with our media focused on america, it is hard to do that and the president has a real challenge. but we have to put jobs also in the context of the world market, of the global immigration market. people talk about illegal immigration. by the laws of the land, people will come looking for jobs in america are illegal. by the laws of economics, they are falling the logic and laws of economics when they leave guatemala and go to mexico, leave mexico and come to the u.s., leave africa and to spain and europe looking for jobs. we need that context. i hope the president will inaugurate not just more talk about jobs, but action about jobs as well. that has to be at th