we're joined by ben botkin from the las vegas review-journal. how did this escalate into the standoff it was? >> well, the entire situation leading up to the standoff took 20 years, was 20 years in the making. you had a couple of court orders that the b.l.m. obtained to obtain the cattle, which that came because cliven bundy wasn't paying his grazing fees. but in the last few days before the standoff, you had a bunch of different types of groups and people, everyone from groups that call themselves militia to so-called patriot groups and others across the country gather together over the course of several days leading up to saturday, and at that point saturday the bundy family took the protesters, went up to the corral where the blm had rounded up their cattlele, and after a short and brief negotiation and standoff, the blm decided to release several hundred cows back to the family. there's no formal agreement, but during that standoff, there were guns drawn from both sides, so rather than run the risk of bloodshed, the agency, at that point, de