ben bradlee and k. graeme -- kate graham retired in 1970 at the post. both my folks ran until -- who lived until 95. my father ran a company and when i did not go into it, he retired. i figured i had after 70 lot of years left. i had covered the law a lot, i liked the law, i have friends who are lawyers, have an oldest son. i thought i would give a law degree and practice law. >> did you? >> i graduated in 2001. i flunked the bar, which came funeral.y graham's i was one of pressures. that was my excuse. the war had kind of started. and don graham said i could stay as long as i wanted side have to give him up on it. >> what did it feel like, getting our law degree and flunking the bar? i know that happens to a lot of people. >> it was strange. i stopped going -- i have not taken almost 10 courses that were on the bar review and then i went to the bar review in the morning and went back to work in the afternoon. i do not know. i was disappointed i had a couple of -- i was disappointed. i had a couple of offers from a law firm but it would be to do pr. i l