host: then mentor number two, ben bradlee. we have a clip of ben bradlee. let's watch and then we will come back. >> that's the trouble with these people. they think that they and the press have a common job. well, they do not. the white house press officer or press system and the president, their job is to tell the truth to the country. in a way that makes them look the best. our job is to find the truth,. -- to find the truth, period. mind you, they all lie to the press. as soon as those lies start coming in, it is difficult to treat them the same. host: that is ben bradlee being interviewed for c-span in 1991. yc mentor? -- why is he a mentor? guest: he was the editor of the post my whole time there. as you can see from that clip, he had a certain stat -- set of standards. he was a great editor not because he hooked the paragraphs, but when ben bradlee was in a room, you knew were you -- you knew you were with the presence of a real editor, someone who believes in journalism in the best sense. he was tough and smart, he was obviously charismatic. i arriv