and what i -- what i fear is we're going to lose the ben bradley model from the newsroom that we had during watergate with all the young reporters working together. there was a group effort. blogging is very solitary. >> that's because blogging is -- implies solitaryness. when you grow these sites you have a newsroom. like at our office. chris: but you're still going to be competing against -- i mean, tina is one of the great editors, i've worked for her. and i would love to see those kind of sites work. we're not sure that they are yet. and the other thing that you really missing that i loved about journalism is the group sensibility. the fact that you're all in the newsroom together, and that creates stories. you don't always have the pure idea by yourself. your pal over there might say to you -- chris: do we need a katherine graham? somebody with the resource to say i'm backing this to the hill even if you're up against the president or the mayor? bob? >> yeah. >> she was publisher of "the washington post." but "the washington post" made a great deal of money. somebody told me thi

status with humphrey's failure to serve in world war ii, a fact that still amuses kennedy friend ben bradley who served on a destroyer in the pacific. >> humphrey wasn't in world war ii. he wasn't, you know, what was he a hospital mate or something like that? >> you guys are unbelievable. this is what i'm talking about. you guys kept score on who was in the front. >> we knew people's war records. we sure did. >> remember, senator john f. kennedy can be our next president. >> kennedy trailed humphrey by 20%. so his campaign turned up the heat, buying tv time to address head-on when his pollsters showed growing concerns about kennedy's catholic religions. >> i don't happen to be one of those serious issues is where i go to church on sundays. >> the strategy worked. senator kennedy crushed humphrey with 60% of the vote. more went into this victory than an appeal to patriotism and fair play. it was common knowledge in west virginia, county politicians could be swayed by cash. kennedy had it, lots of it, and used it. >> i offer my congratulations to my friend and senate colleague jack kennedy. >>

with humphrey's failure to receiver in world war ii, a fact that still amuses kennedy's friend ben bradleyerved on a destroyer in the pacific. >> humphrey wasn't in ward war ii. he was a hospital maid or something like that. >> you guys are unbelievable. this is what i'm talking about, you guys kept score on who was in the front. >> we knew people's war record. we sure did. >> remember senator john f. kennedy can be our next president. >> with four weeks left, kennedy trailed humphrey by 20%, so his campaign turned up the heat, buying tv time to address head on when his pollsters saw his growing concerns about kennedy's catholic religion. >> i don't happen to believe that one of those serious issues is where i go to church on sunday. >> the strategy worked. senator kennedy crushed humphrey with 60% of the vote. but more went into this victory than appeals to patriotism and fair play, it was common knowledge in west virginia that county politicians could be swayed by cash, the kennedys had it, lots of it, and used it. >> i offer my congratulations to my friend and senate colleague jack kenn

a fact that still amuses kennedy friend ben bradley who served on a destroyer in the pacific. >> humphreyasn't in world war ii. he was a hospital maid or something like that. >> you guys are unbelievable. >> no, but -- >> this is what i'm talking about. you guys kept score on who was in the front. >> we knew people's war records. we sure did. >> there's so much in this you've never seen before about how the kennedys came to power, their whole era in our lives. the kennedy brothers, it airs this thursday on msnbc at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. >>> up next, with attorney general eric holder appointing a special prosecutor to investigate bush era interrogations by the cia, is this exactly the kind of distraction president obama is worried about in the thick of this fight for health care reform? well, it's happening anyway. "the politics fix" is next. this is "hardball" only on msnbc. >>> coming up, will the war in afghanistan be the war for president obama that vietnam was for lyndon johnson. horrid thought, but it's mine. "hardball" returns with "the politics fix" after this. whe

it's been said that we, along with ben bradley of "the washington post," were the best editors of the >> help people at home understand what that means. what does an editor do that makes such a big difference? >> in our case, we go off with a producer and do a story. we shoot it, and we may edit it three or four different ways before we actually take it in and show it to don. showed it to don, and don would sit there and watch it for the first time and say, i don't like that. i want that taken out. i want the top to be the bottom and the bottom to be the top and move the middle over here. >> and he just knew? >> and he would do it from watching the piece once. he could do it in five minutes, and it would be a completely different -- not a different story but so much better. >> i met him only briefly. i didn't know until i saw the pieces yesterday how hot-headed he could be. but i'm sure you both knew that very well. >> i remember when i moved to new york to work for him from washington, where people just didn't shout at each other, it wasn't done. that was the way people conversed at