joining us now is the product senator ben cardin. nce committee and they have begun hearings on the tax reform. good to have you here. sen. cardin: good to be with you. david: we have heard from quite a few republicans who say they love this plan. we have heard from democrat saying they have some real doubts. is there any way the democrats can play nice and come up with a bipartisan approach? sen. cardin: we certainly hope so. if we are going to get a meaningful bill passed, enacted into law and have staying power, that has to be a bipartisan bill. t principles we have id out are pretty clear. we want to make sure we are not financing it through greater debt. there is not enough details in the proposal that was laid out, to be able to analyze that. many of the pay for's have not been identified. there has to be an open process. oh --an't do this through what we call reconciliation where it comes in without chances of amendments. has to be a open process so that people understand what we are doing and we can get feedback before we act.

i'll speak with a republican congressman adam kensinger and senator ben cardin.nd our specialists and guests are standing by with full coverage. first, to the london underground bombing, which has triggered a sweeping manhunt. we have two reports. cnn's matthew chance is in london. but we begin with cnn's brian todd. brian, what are you learning? >> reporter: london very much on edge tonight. british prime minister theresa may announced the threat level has been raised from severe to critical. that means that another attack may be imminent. we're getting new details tonight on the bomb itself, which, if it had detonated completely, would have brought much more carnage on that train. flames emanate from a crudely built bomb placed by the doorway inside a train in london's underground. officials say this ied sent more than two dozen people to the hospital with wounds like flash burns and singed air. witnesses say it caused a stampede of commuters. >> it was every man for himself. >> this wall of fire was coming towards us. >> reporter: tonight, the suspect or suspe

sen. ben cardin, d-md: "they certainly dont deserve the uncertainty that the president is putting into this issue." there are about 800-thousand people in the us currently being protected under daca. if it ends, left leaning economist jared bernstein says it could have a big impact on the economy.jared bernstien, former advisor to vp joe biden: "they purchase homes, they purchase cars, they pay taxes. taking them of the economy and departing them would be analogous to kicking the ball in your own goal." others argue that daca is an unconstitutional overreach by the obama administration. and some say it provides low skill workers that keep american wages low. sarah huckabee sanders, white house press secretary: "the presidents priorities on immigration is to create a system that encourages legal immigration and benefits our economy and american workers."drew petrimoulx, reporting: "the reports say president trump will delay implementation of his action for 6 months. that would give congress time to act."there is bipartisan support for legislation continuing daca's provisions but it coul

among the no votes were leading democrats like senators chuck schumer, ben cardin and bob menendez. despite president obama's constitutional risk, the legislative body did attempt to exercise some of it authority with the passage of the court a law thataw -- of requires the president to make a certification to congress every 90 days. importantly, the law asks the president to certify several things, not just one. the first is that iran has not reached the jcpoa, the one everyone for us is on, but the new law requires something else, and that is often overlooked. the president to certify this is suspensionthe against iran is proportionate to iran's nuclear measures and that it is vital to the national security interest of the united states. regardless of whether one considers iran's violations of a material and regardless of whether one considers iran's flouting on its technology toile be nonnuclear, u.s. law requires the president to look at whether the iran deal is appropriate, proportionate to our national security interests. it asks us to put together the pieces of the jigsaw puz

among the no votes were leading like senator chuck schumer, ben cardin, and bob menendez. obama'spresident constitutionally questionable dodge of congress, the body did attempt to exercise some authority with the passage of the corker cardin law. the l requires the president make a certification to congress every 90 ds, but the law asks the president to certify several things, not just one. the first is that iran has not breached the jcpoe. that is the one everyone focuses on. law alsor-cardin requires something else, something that is overlooked. it asks the president to certify the suspension of sanctioned against ironic -- against ira is appropriate and proportionate to buy ron's nuclear measured -- iran's nuclear measures. regardless of whether one flouting of the u.s. resolution on its list of missile technology to be nonnuclear, u.s. law requires the president to look at whether deal appropriate, proportionate, and in our national security interest. asks us to put together the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle. under its structure, we must consider not just the iranian regi

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maryland senior senator ben cardin held a town hall on health care. he also discussed medicaid and medicare. he was joined by the leader of johns hopkins university. short talk on republicans' failed efforts to repeal the affordable care act and then took questions. [inditinct conversations] [indistinct conversations] [raps gavel] >> hoping to have a town hall meeting where we can have a discussion about health care. i want to welcome -- [applause] >> thanks. >> for all! >> let's have a discussion for all. good evening. welcome to everyone who came this evening. my name is tom lewis. i'm the vice president for government and community affairs for johns hopkins. i want to welcome you to johns hopkins montgomery county campus. promised 11 years we have been offering postgraduate level courses here. i want to introduce our speaker. for 20 cardin served years in the maryland house of delegates, the youngest ever elected to lead the maryland house of delegates. markd a very distinguished as the u.s. congressman from maryland. he went to the senate. in the

sen. ben cardin, d-md: "they certainly dont deserve the uncertainty that the president is putting intocurrently being protected under daca. if it ends, left leaning economist jared bernstein says it could have a big impact on the economy.jared bernstien, former advisor to vp joe biden: "they purchase homes, they purchase cars, they pay taxes. taking them of the economy and departing them would be analogous to kicking the ball in your own goal." others argue that daca is an unconstitutional overreach by the obama administration. and some say it provides low skill workers that keep american wages low. sarah huckabee sanders, white house press secretary: "the presidents priorities on immigration is to create a system that encourages legal immigration and benefits our economy and american workers."drew petrimoulx, reporting: "the reports say president trump will delay implementation of his action for 6 months. that would give congress time to act."there is bipartisan support for legislation continuing daca's provisions but it could face strong opposition from immigration hardliners in cong

among the no-votes were leading democrats like senators chuck schumer, ben cardin, and bob menendez. despite president obama's constitutionally questionable dodge of congress, the legislative body did attempt to exercise some of its authority with the passage of the corker-cardin law. the law requires that the president make a certification to congress every 90 days. but importantly the law asks the president to certify several things, not just one. the first is that iran has not specifically breached the jcpoa. that's the one everyone focuses on. but the corker-cardin law also requires something else. something that is often overlooked. it asks the president to certify the suspension of sanctions against iran, certify that the suspension of sanctions against iran is appropriate and proportionate to iran's nuclear measures. and that it is vital to the national security interest of the united states. so regardless of whether one considers iran's violations of the jcpoa to have been material, and regardless of whether one considers iran's flouting of the u.n. resolution on its ballistic

democratic senator ben cardin, ranking foreign member of the foreign relations committee on cnn earlier speaking about this potential path the u.s. is on now with north korea. this tough talk escalating on both sides. take a listen. >> i think the military options are somewhat limited because of the risk factors involving south korea, involving japan. one thing is clear. the president's tough talk has not appeared to change the calculation of north korea. what the president needs to do is engage china and hopefully russia to put the type of pressure on north korea that changes their calculations. >> and what do you think the impact has been? this tough talk we've seen escalate? the president talking about fire and fury. even yesterday the defense secretary saying there would be this massive response if the u.s. is threatened in any way or allies are threatened in any way in that region. what does that do to the situation, do you think? >> i think we have to remember that the context is very important. there's always been fire and fury rhetoric off and on throughout the decades from all

. >> health care also the topic at ben cardin's town hall. he reveals efforts to repeal and replace the law and the future of health care. >>> tonight we are hoping to have a town hall meeting where we can have a discussion about health care. i want to welcome -- just thank you to. >> free speech for all! >> let's just have a discussion for all. so good evening. welcome to everyone who came this evening. my name is tom lewis, i'm the vice president for government and community affairs for johnson hospital kijohns hopkins and i want to welcome you to the montgomery county campus. i want to say a little bit about our speaker tonight before i introduce him. senator cardin served for 20 years in the maryland house of delega delegates. he was the youngest speaker ever elected to lead the maryland house of delegates. he also spent 20 years as a u.s. congressman from maryland and had a distinguished mark there. he was elected to the u.s. senate and in the senate he is the highest ranking democrat on republican dominated foreign relations committee,

sen. ben cardin, d-md: "they certainly dont deserve the uncertainty that the president is putting intois issue." there are about 800-thousand people in the us currently being protected under daca. if it ends, left leaning economist jared bernstein says it could have a big impact on the economy.jared bernstien, former advisor to vp joe biden: "they purchase homes, they purchase cars, they pay taxes. taking them of the economy and departing them would be analogous to kicking the ball in your own goal." others argue that daca is an unconstitutional overreach by the obama administration. and some say it provides low skill workers that keep american wages low. sarah huckabee sanders, white house press secretary: "the presidents priorities on immigration is to create a system that encourages legal immigration and benefits our economy and american workers."drew petrimoulx, reporting: "the reports say president trump will delay implementation of his action for 6 months. that would give congress time to act."there is bipartisan support for legislation continuing daca's provisions but it could f

the bill's author ben cardin was recently questioned by the intercept rhein graham.sitive in the bill. wasthe way it is written winning itself toward felony penalties for people as they participated -- cork we had cruel sanctions, i don't think -- i just don't think that is in our bill. you're catching me -- i feel like i know it very well. i don't think we have criminalized. i think our issue is yours participation in national organizations speaking out against the u.n. actions. the cosponsor of the bill, roger waters, you are laughing. >> well, yeah. that is funny. amy: because first there are sanctions and fines related to this -- >> the bill is sponsoring. amy: even some of the cosponsors are changing their views. new york senator gillibrand responded to a question from her constituents at a flushing town hall meeting by saying she would not support the bill in its current form and that she would not support it unless the bills authors and language specifying the punishment only extend to corporations and not to individuals. that is according to -- >> i have met

ben cardin also a democrat from maryland, threat from north korea is to great to abandon diplomatic.ork with congress to develop a plan. one more tweet this morning from a republican congressman from illinois, the united states stands ready to's to stand up to north korean aggression. the days of threatening us and our allies are numbered. standdown kim jong-un. kim jong-un is the focus this week of the christian science monitor front age cover story, how kim rules. country inn his unexpected directions in six years and what it means for united states. that is from the christian monitor weekly piece. is coming in from here in washington, d.c. on the line for diplomacy. good morning. caller: i am a korean war veteran of 1950. i saw how the civilians suffered during that war. we need diplomacy. if we look back on history, north korea agreed at one point to get rid of the atomic weapons . i remember watching them go up a cooling tower that was part of it. according to the secretary of state during that time, we walked away from that agreement. have theat we do not korean people suffer i

ben cardin, the ranking democrat on the committee, has a respectful chairman relationship with bob corker. it's my hope that the next foreign relations committee and the next congress, whether it's a democrat or republican, will also work as hard as bob corker has to find a way to put our country's interests first. but he is the sort of pragmatic legislator, someone who really wants to get things done, that our country wants more of. when i go home to delaware, what i hear from people when i'm going to the grocery store or after church or coming home from the train station, they say they want government to work together and move forward to the betterment of america. the election of roy moore certainly suggests there are a lot of states where folks are pulling in the opposite direction. >> that's for sure. let me ask you quickly about mark zuckerberg, these revelations about facebook, thousands of ads purchased by russians and used to try to meddle in the campaign. does mark zuckerberg need to testify in an open hearing? >> yes. i think we need to hear from mark zuckerberg. we need to bett

let's ask democratic senator ben cardin, member of the senate foreign relations committee.d morning, senator. >> good morning, dave. good to be with you. >> good to have you on this holiday. defense secretary james mattis warned of massive military response. what are the realistic military options to contain the north korean nuclear threat? >> well, i think the military options are somewhat limited because of the risk factors involving south korea, involving japan. one thing is clear, the president's tough talk has not appeared to change the calculation of north korea. what the president needs to do is engage china and hopefully russia to put the type of pressure on north korea that changes their calculations. we haven't seen that, and that's our best option rather than a military option. >> you talk about the president's rhetoric on twitter. here is what jeff flake said about the north korean threat and about the president's leadership on this issue yesterday on "state of the union." >> i have a lot of confidence in our national security team, general mattis and others, bu

senators john mccain and ben cardin, a republican and a democrat, sent the president this letter on thursday quote, congress' swift and united action and your signature sent a strong message to adversaries and allies alike and particularly to those such as russia who have sought to undermine our democracy. now as critical deadlines are approaching, it is imperative that your administration implement the law to its fullest extent to uphold and protect american interests. joining me now, former federal prosecutor paul butler and former assistant special watergate counsel attorney nick ackerman, both msnbc legal analysts. gentlemen, thank you both for being with us. let me start with the first issue, the mueller investigation. nick akerman, the wall street journal is reporting tonight that white house counsel don mcgahn this summer was so frustrated about the lack of protocol surrounding meetings between president donald trump and jared kushner, his son-in-law, whose activities are under scrutiny in the russia probe, that west wing officials expressed concerns the top lawyer would quit, accordi

. >> that was senator ben cardin coming out strong on the president's military action against north koreafter that nuclear test we were talking about ted lu a member of the house foreign affairs committee. congressman, thank you for being with us. and you listen to senator cardin there, the idea of working on diplomacy with china and russia and being a better option than a military one. you agree? >> i do, hallie. thank you for that question. the tlehreat of north korea is real and growing and the trump administration failed to explain to american people what its strategy is. instead, we have the president going on twitter publicly undermining our critical ally south korea by saying they're engaging in and the president in a trade war with south korea and different officials saying different things. >> let me ask you this, congressman. i don't know that they are saying different things. it seems from what we heard from nikki haley a couple minutes ago and steven mnuchin over the weekend and the president himself, the idea that the united states is going to cut off trade with any country t

but folks like senator schumer, ben cardin of maryland, another democrat who opposed the deal still think we should stay in place for the time being considering the destruction that could take place if the president withdraws. >> emmanuel macron says stay, the prime minister of israel says get out. we'll take a quick break. we're watching the rescues under way in mexico city number one at the united nations. when we come back, a different trump. first lady has a big speech this hour. ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief. we believe in food that's anaturally beautiful,, fresh and nutritious. so there are no artificial colors, no artificial flavors, no artificial preservatives in any of the food we sell. we believe in real food. whole foods market. and when youod sugar is a replace one meal... choices. ...or snack a day with glucerna... ...made with carbsteady... ...to help minimize blood s

we are covering all of that and more with guests including senator ben cardin, ranking member of the foreign relations committee, correspondents and specialists are also standing by. let's go straight to our breaking news with residents of southeast texas still reeling from harvey, another powerful storm may pose a serious threat to the united states. you may not have heard about it yet. it is hurricane irma. and it is now a dangerous category 4. florida's governor has already declared a state of emergency. let's turn to meteorologist tom seder at the cnn weather center. tom, this is not looking good. >> no, jim, we are looking at irma. the same strength that harvey was when it made land fall into rockport. we know what happened to rockport. those strong winds alone. this system is several days away. in fact, it will not reach north coast of cuba until friday, but that is a critical day because we believe it will take a turn to the north. that means toward either the carolina coast or the florida coast. warnings in effect for the northern islands in the lesser an tilles, anguila, ant

are a number, but particularly i'm aware of senator durbin and senator john mccain and senator ben cardin's involvement in leadership. let's build on that foundation to have this u.s. senate demonstrate attention to this issue through letters. we should also try to arrange a senate trip to visit both burma and bangladesh to draw additional international attention and build momentum for action. thank you, mr. president. i note the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk should call the roll. quorum call: mr. cornyn: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from texas. mr. cornyn: mr. president i ask unanimous consent that the quorum call be dispensed with. the presiding officer: without objection, it is so ordered. mr. cornyn: mr. president, it has been quite a few weeks now since harvey sit, then irma, and now maria has devastated the island of puerto rico and the virgin islands, and, of course, my gaze has been firmly on the devastation wrought by hurricane harvey back in my home state of texas, but we are joined together with those who suffered under irma and maria

i am ben cardin. citizen festival theme for freedom, for justice, for all, mirrors what many of my colleagues and i fight for every day. >> we must continue to invest in these life-saving programs. >> i want you to know that democrats and republicans in congress are working right now to reject the devastating international affairs budget proposed by president trump. >> and you can rest assured that, as a member of the united states congress, i will continue to stand with you in advancing american interests through global stability. keep up the great work. >> i am being prepped while in front of the curtain. what is the point of being prepped if you're going to do it in front of the curtain, right? what a mess. the mess follows me. hi, everybody. i am wendy williams. how you doin'? [ cheers and applause ] >> i am so glad to be here, to be a part of this big situation that could be even bigger. and thank you all for coming out today, spending your saturday with us. our next artist is from detroit. [ che

his first home run against the cardinals now as a member of the cubs. 8-6. ben zobrist. st.ouis never had any affection for him. it's 8-7. we're wondering, are we going to have cubs post game as they clinch. will they pour the champagne? no, they will not! gets him. cards win, 8-7. champagne on ice. magic number one. they have cleveland. they need to beat them and have the angels lose. that's paul molitor. max kep ler strikes out. the win ises had a lot of chances. on that chance they took advantage of. dozier said i struck a three-run homer to right in the top of the eighth. the wins the win, 8-6. but the angels also won behind mike trout's 31st. meaning minnesota's imagine ing number is at one. >>> our thanks to the fellas at espn. >>> up next in "the pulse, the future hall of fame quarterback who may soon run for senate. >>> and closing the door on "firks upper." why chip and joanne ya gaines are walking away from their hit show. my challenge is to be in sync with my body, myself, my life. it all starts with a healthy routine. begin the activia two week probiotic challeng

his first home run against the cardinals now as a member of the cubs. 8-6. ben zobrist. st. never had any affection for him. solo shot. his 12th. it's 8-7. and all of a sudden, we're wondering, are we going to have cubs post game as they clinch? will they pour the champagne? no, they will not! baez strikes out. juan nicasio gets him. cards win, 8-7. champagne on ice. magic number one. >>> twins, magic number two, they have cleveland. they need to beat cleveland and they need the angels to lose. that's paul molitor. he once came over to the shane victorino foundation event. was a good dude. brian dozier strikes out swinging. max kepler strikes out. the point being the twins had a lot c on that chance they took advantage of. dozier said, i struck out swinging? i struck a three-run homer to right in the top of the eighth. his 33rd. the twins win, 8-6. but the angels also won behind mike trout's 31st. meaning minnesota's magic number is at one. >> our thanks to the fellas there at espn. >>> up next in "the pulse," the future hall of fame quarterback who may soon run for senate.