now ranking member of the senate foreign relations committee ben cardon argues that normalization will strengthen the position of the you u.s. to normalize its interests, won't effectively pressure for change on the island something your organization is dedicated to? >> well, first of all there have been relations or the all of these years. this is again a little fairy tale that is being brought out. even ronald reagan sent people to cuba to talk to the cuban government. you should talk to another democrat, a former chairman of the be committee of foreign relations, robert menendez, who opposes iran and cuba. >> what is your biggest objection at this point? one of the strongest points of criticism is that the mairch government has ignored human rights and beleaguered cuban dissidents during the negotiations. have the dissidents been brought into the conversation and do you some there is improvement in human rights in cuba? >> there isn't a question of improvement. in the past year and a half, when the president has been discussing with the cuban government, discussion between the presi