ben carson. dr. carson, is obama care website fixed? >> i guess it depends on how you define the word fixed. some people like to do redefinitions of everything. according to their definition, yes, it would be fixed. but, you know, we have to ask the question, what really works for the american people. we're in a situation where 85% of people had health care that they were satiied with and we turned the whole system upside down for the sake of the 15% who did not have it. and there were certainly many good ways to take care of those people. >> dr. carson, let me ask you this. did you hear in my open, i was talking about the woman, maria silva? >> yes. >> stage four breast cancer patient who was happy with her health care, had a scheduled round of chemotherapy and then gets notified she lost her insurance. she goes to the doctor. he says, you have no insurance. ergo, no chemotherapy. how many americans are in a situation like this, in limbo where they need life-saving treatment and they need it now? >> one is too many. we have a situation

ben carson? go, here's your opportunity. they're pulling you in. demanding that you get involved. go! >> i will keep my ears and eyes open and i will remain a patriot of this country. stuart: and you will continue to appear on "varney & company" we trust? >> absolutely. stuart: you're a ggod man. dr. ben carson, thank you so much. that's a terrific book by the way, we do recommend hater tilly. thank you for joining us sir, appreciate it. >>> okay a young man in his jammies. sipping hot chocolate. selling obamacare. look at that. do you think you can appeal to young people to sign up for obamacare with an ad like that, a kid looking like that? it is amateur hour. my take on it next. ♪ [ male announcer ] if you're taking multiplmedications, does your mth often feel dry? a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications but it can also lead to toothecay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene. available as an oral rinse, toothpaste, spray or gel, biotene can provide soothing relief, and it helps keep your mouth healthy, too. remember, while your

ben carson on what he makes of this.uldn't there have been a professional 24/7 from get-go? >> of course there should be. it reminds me of when he was involved with the first twins joined at the back of the head. never before had they been separated about both surviving. nobody had a lot of experience but we knew what we needed and we got surgeons and critical care people and nursing experts. even some electricianings. we got the right people involved because we knew it was going to be complex and we could predict what was going on and it was successful. and it was the first time that that was done. but it requires real planning. you have to get experts, you have to realize you're not the expert in everything but that you have access to them and you have to know how to coordinate them. why they weren't able to do this with something that's one sixth of our economy makes you scratch your head. >> can government organize from the ground up a big new enterprise like this website? are you saying government is ill-equipped to

he ben carson, i think that be someone that we ought to really look to, and people like health- help us in this care thing, because people are to dealing with this thing. once we get people in office that are really looking out for us by the iraqi people, and i mean both sides of for us,tical aisle -- the american people, and i mean both sides of the political aisle, we'd better education in this country, and there's something not happening because we are allowing ourselves to be governed by a politician who really wants to control our lives. host: one less call. from southl, silvio bend, indiana. independent color. toward morning -- independent color. good morning. as of the end of the year, she is going to be canceled completely. -- is this example, moving forward, the new death anal? he said his -- her coverage is canceled as of tomorrow. guest: she is a skilled nursing facility and they moved to a clinical trial. host: noam levey, what to look forward to in the next couple of days but with january 1 as a big deadline? guest: people are going to start resumable the evening -- usin

ben carson joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. >> it's a sad night to us.ugh we look at the people around mandela's house and they seem, at least, to accept it much better than maybe the rest of the world. your thoughts tonight about son mandela's death? >> he he was a grace blessing in my life and the life of many people. the first time i went to south africa, i had to go as an honorary white citizen. but shortly after that, apartheid ended. armingly because of his effort. and he advocated for peace. and for forgiveness. and i think there is a lot of lessons that people in our nation could learn from that. >> you know, people will be talking about that for the next 24 hours and until the time of the funeral and then all of a sudden there will be a distance path. why is it we can't take his message and work with it? >> well, unfortunately, i think there are a lot of people who have their own agendas. and, you know, they are not going to really pay a great deal of attention to it. they will, perhaps, give a little lip service to it right now. but, really don

ben carson, but before i do i want to say that if you -- we were told that if you wanted to keep your plan, you could. none of this stuff about it you're unable to keep it because you are able to pay the increasing price, we were told this until just recently. i realize that there are a lot of people out there without insurance and people who are underinsured, and there could have been a way that this whole thing could have been fixed so that they are not underinsured and they are not without insurance. the other issue that is about to fall that all of us have been ignoring is the fact that we're would have 30 million plus that is going to continuously increase the cost of medical care is country. dr. ben carson, i think that he would be someone that we ought to really look to, and people like him, who help us in this health-care thing, because these folks are much closer to dealing with this thing. i think that once we get people in office that are really looking out for us by the iraqi -- the american people, and i mean both sides of the political aisle -- we'd better education in t

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ben carson, who eerily saw all of this rolling out just the way it's rolling out. how does it continue to roll out, doctor? >> it's kind of sad that some people think that the american people are supposed to -- you can take an actor, or somebody who sings and trot them out and they say, this is good, and they'll -- oh, wonderful, he said it was good. i don't think they're quite that simplistic. i really don't. and i think they're probably more likely to be starting to look under the covers now, and see what is actually going on. as i've said before, we're only seeing the very surface. as we get into the layers of this thing it becomes increasingly more complex and way more complexity needs to be with a whole lot more small print. i know there's some who said you should have read the small print because the small print says you cannot reasonably expect confidentiality of your records. well, people are telling us this. they didn't even read the big print. they want you to read the small print before they passed it. >> you're right. they themselves didn't read the big

ben carson, radio talk show host ben wick letter. dr. carson, let me start with you, what is your reaction to all this. >> well i certainly like the idea of wellness. i've been advocating that for many years because our health system is built around sickness f we built it around wellness it would be much cheaper. what i don't particularly like having the government impose it because it becomes too arbitrary at that point and, you know, i don't like the idea of imposing extra penalties on people because you've determined that their lifestyle is inappropriate. what i like is, a situation where everybody knows what the costs are, and if you happen to be living a particularly good lifestyle, maybe you get some reduction in the amount you're responsible for. if you keep adding money up and penalties, people never know where they are. they never can plan anything. melissa: i don't know. i mean, ben, i would ask you, is that semantics though? that is what really struck me during that story. is there a difference between giving someone a discount

ben carson is here next as our coverage of this breaking news continues. >>> okay, everyone, it's timeo ha i >>> the world is remembering nelson mandela. politicians and celebrities taking to facebook and twitter posting their condolences. former president bill clinton tweeting this photo with this caption, i will nevertheless forget my friend. and george w. bush posting, he was one of the great forces for freedom and equality of our time. he bore his burdens with dignity and grace. he will be miss but his contributions will live on forever. >>> and john boehner tweeted. and condoleeza rice posting, throughout history a few special people have been able to transcend differences and change theor the better. nelson mandela is one of those people. samuel l. jackson tweeting. and mike tyson tweeting this picture with this caption i'm hearing about nelson mandela's death, sending prayers to his family. and coming up, more coverage of the breaking news, the death of former south african president nelson mandela. . >>> tonight the news breaking around the world, former south african president

>> ben carson's speech. did it puncture a hole in the conscious of america's soul?at a powerful speech? it was not? come on. >> i think he embarrassed himself. you had young people who admired him said they didn't want him speaking at their college. back to the pope. the pope isn't a liberal. the pope read the bible. he's supporting poor people. >> i went the to seminary. render unto caesar that which is caesar's and unto god that which is god's. considering god made everything, caesar gets nothing. go ahead. >> i want to give credit to george bush. i think the american people are finally getting to see his true character. he's a man of integrity. he's a classy guy and has a huge heart. finally now that the mainstream media backed off and stopped demon yiezing him we are getting to see the real george bush. they like him. >> one of the things that frustrated me all the years that i is known him and interviewed him is i never felt the media did him justice in terms of showing how much he loved and cared, how passionate he was, how 9/11 changed him. he was not going t

ben carson, one of our favorites here on "the five" he tweeted something along those lines.important for those in poverty to work hard even with minimum wages they gain knowledge and skill that will allow for upward progress. >> how can you talk about a minimum wage nationally any way? it's new york city, like sparks, nevada, the cost of living is different everywhere, but it will never be enough. >> not to the government, remember, we all have the same health benefits, right, a one size fits all for health care, for business, but bob, i don't understand it, if you take money, someone's going to have to pay, the business owner or the consumer. >> it's a reasonable argument that eric make, i don't think you should raise it to the point -- >> who decides? >> but if you do have an increase in minimum wage, it says here -- >> who decides then, bob? should you be the one who decides in. >> no, the legislature should. they did in new jersey and the business said, oh, we're going to lose our jobs, nobody lost their jobs. >> how about the study that bob cited. >> studies. >> that le

ben carson is here to talk about that next. >>> another obamacare change, president obama making another change hours before heading to hawaii. this change come just days before the obamacare sign up deadline hits us. this surprise new change exempts people whose policies were cancelled from the individual mandate in other words the ones who had policies cancel because of obamacare will not have to pay penalties for one year because they can't get it under obama irca. also the insurance industry dr. ben johnson joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. >> i suspect that the white house is now admitting by this new change that the obamacare is a hardship for many. >> yeah. unfortunately, it's just the latest edition of the weekly unconstitutional changes that are made. but, you know, it's sort of like having a baseball game. you have two teams and you have an umpire. the umpire says i'm going to play on this team. this would be the government's team. you get to change the rules any time they start falling behind. and after a while, even the most ardent fans begin to say you kno

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ben carson. thank you for joining us.ng to participate in the aca? >> no, it doesn't surprise me at all. recognize that physicians are trained to make decisions based on evidence and so they're analyzing what's going on and saying, this is obviously not going to work for us. it's not going to work for anybody. you know, remember, our country, our constitution, there were five physicians involved in putting that together. so physicians in the early parts of our establishment were very involved and i think it's time for them to get involved again and bring logic back to this and not just ideology. it tends to lead us to bad places. >> incentives matter. doesn't the system now implemented pretty much guarantee that the best doctors will opt out and serve rich people and the people at the lower end of the achievement scale, physicians, will be serving people on obama care? >> well, you know, there are probably a lot of different factors that are involved in who will go where, but, you know, the bottom line is if you're being

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he ben carson, i think that be someone that we ought to really look to, and people like health- help us in this care thing, because people are to dealing with this thing. once we get people in office that are really looking out for us by the iraqi people, and i mean both sides of for us,tical aisle -- the american people, and i mean both sides of the political aisle, we'd better education in this country, and there's something not happening because we are allowing ourselves to be governed by a politician who really wants to control our lives. host: one less call. from southl, silvio bend, indiana. independent color. toward morning -- independent color. good morning. as of the end of the year, she is going to be canceled completely. -- is this example, moving forward, the new death anal? he said his -- her coverage is canceled as of tomorrow. guest: she is a skilled nursing facility and they moved to a clinical trial. host: noam levey, what to look forward to in the next couple of days but with january 1 as a big deadline? guest: people are going to start resumable the evening -- usin

ben carson published "america the beautiful: what made this nation great." and rachel maddow released "drift: the unmooring of american military power." also published in 2012 buzz "it worked for me: in life and leadership" by colin powell. the former secretary of state was on booktv that year to talk about his book. >> it's very important that that rule had to be the summary of the 13 rules, and it links to the first one also that says, you know, things will get better in the morning. and i start that description by saying that's not necessarily the case, but it's the attitude you should have. things are going to get better, you're going to make them better. of it is within your life to make things better, and then if you go through the rules and end up with perpetual optimism as a force multiplier, force multiplier's a military term. we're always looking for ways to enhance the power of our force whether it's by communications or supply lines or whatever it is. but we look for things that make the force more effective. and so i have found in working with h

ben carson? and have they ruled out the possibility that i might consider another run?art of their branding problem, martha. of. martha: i hear what you're saying. a lot of folks look at what's going on with obamacare, and they say that for republicans, for your side this is a golden opportunity. but others look at it and say all thai doing is bashing the program -- they're doing is bashing the program. and granted, i think it's true there have have been proposals,e saw some of the ideas like cross-border purchasing and tort reform and all of that, but that doesn't really matter because i don't think the american people feel there is a cogent republican alternative. like what would you guys do? >> well, the media, the mainstream media, they have helped to keep silent a real alternative that's out there. it's h.r. 2300, and it was authored by representative tom pryce out of georgia. that legislation, that empower patients first act, has been around since 2009 when obamacare first came on the scene. but as you indicated, the republicans haven't consistently gotten behind

benç carson. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> dr. when you hear about this doctor in somerset, kentucky, 11, 12,000 person community.ç 40,000 community. are you surprised he is getting out oof the business? >> i'm not surprised. my heart really goes out to him because i talk to doctors all over the country constantly who are facing similar situation. and, you know,ç it costs a lot of money in order to upgrade to an electronic system. and even more concerning than that to me is the fact that you put all of this electronic forum accessible to people you don't want it to be accessible to. it has been publicized that the site is insecure and can can be easily hacked. do you want all of thisç sensitive information all over the place? some of the kinds of questions that are asked by doctors, very sensitive. it's required. you have to do all these check marks on the electronic medical record. the only way you can escape that is if you pay cashç and request the doctor not to include certain information. and most people are not going to d

ben carson, going forward, doctors essentially being treated as government workers.to this. >> one of the reasons that private practice is disappearing is because all these different costs and requirements are so onerous you need to be under the umbrella of a hospital or big medical system in order to be able to do that. basically we're in the process of making doctors into government employees. >> your question, mendelson said the up side is the costs will be down. the down side is it restricts patient choice. >> what's interesting -- i talked to one of my doctors about this -- he said if i did want to buy into this system, no one contacted me. no one asked me if i want to buy in. my patients, if they're signing up for obamacare i'm not going to be on the list because not once has the government asked me if i want to sign up. he entered in his zip code on the obamacare website to find out what doctors in our zip code were on the list, and found two doctors on the upper east side. that was it that had signed up for it. >> there just aren't many details on the website

carson vote for dr. ben for the man who called obama out on his destructive ideas and perverse mindset. his nomination for his political hero of 2013. we have time for a few more calls this morning. roy is in brooklyn on our live for democrats. your own. go ahead. my hero is mr. chris christie from new jersey. when we had the hurricane. he got together with the president and joined as one. host: turn your tv down and go ahead and speak. caller: he gets together with the president. he is a peoples person. he is concerned. about an agenda but people. ieat is why i think mr. christ is my hero of the year and i think he will go on as the president of the united states of america. roy for brooklyn, new york. clifton is up next from saint augustine on our line for independents. caller: good morning. happy holidays to all. stand above the word. frankly, personally, having gone to what we went through a month a world war ii vet, i'm going to give the one consistent answer. it will be set for christmas morning. perso