at the table ben cohen, co-founder of none other than ben & jerry's ice cream and head stam per, devoted to bringing awareness to money in politics. valer valerie core, david donnelly, executive director of the public campaign action fund and lesley sanchez, author of "you've come a long way baby." thanks to my panel for being here this morning. as we were doing these calculations, i just kept thinking, i cannot believe that it is this expensive. are people's votes simply for sale? >> i don't think they're for sale. i think the amount of money in politician is disgusting to a lot of people. they don't want to see excessive campaign spending, particularly all these advertising raining down in the campaign. i do think that they're more worried about where the money is coming from because it's not coming from them. it's coming from very wealthy interests, those that can give $25 per person which is what you can give to candidate, those are not average americans. it's a very small slice of the american public. when you see facts like this past week when chevron dumped $2.5 million from its c

ben cohen founder of ben & jerry's..5% of the proceeds of the company to progressive charge. they have yes pecan in honor of barack obama, i love that one. and he's fighting to get money out of politics. he's doing a new campaign called stamp stampede. >> i think we should start with, you know, some of the earlier stands. i'll take you through the history. i think we started off with bigger ones. these were just the wooden handle hand stamps. >> cenk: all right ben joins us now in san francisco in "the war room"." great to have you here. why stamping the money what are you driving out there? >> you know, stamping money is an incredible way to make your voice heard. it's like petition on steroid. no one sees the petitions you sign up for. there is one bill that you stamp once. that will help 10,000 people. if you do 12 stamps 3 hyundai 300 days a year. stamp, stamp. how many zeros is that? that's like 3 million? 300,000? you lose--that's just one guy. so the idea here is that if people really want money out of politics i

elliott: who wrote the book about political leaders in general, including ben-gurion, but also winston churchill. eliot cohen later came into the bush administration as the secretary of state, condoleezza rice. and he also must seamlessly read book on democracy. he read the sharansky book is so affected him that he gave it. he had them come in for a visit in the oval office and sharansky said afterwards, bush not only read the book, he felt it. and the idea about the promotion of democracy became an important influence for the second natural address, in which bush for development of democracy in the arab world. some sad air of spring turned into an unpleasant winter and came from the date of termination. so we have a very pro-israel president. it's both symbolic and sensitive issues. it wasn't just his reading. it goes back to 1998. and on that visit, there is not a power politician named our real sharon. sharon offered to take push around and took them on this famous helicopter ride, we took both of israel habaneros part of israel whereas only nine miles from the mediterranean sea to the most and are part o

elliott: who wrote the book about political leaders in general, including ben-gurion, but also winston churchill. eliot cohen later came into the bush administration as the secretary of state, condoleezza rice. and he also must seamlessly read book on democracy. he read the sharansky book is so affected him that he gave it. he had them come in for a visit in the oval office and sharansky said afterwards, bush not only read the book, he felt it. and the idea about the promotion of democracy became an important influence for the second natural address, in which bush for development of democracy in the arab world. some sad air of spring turned into an unpleasant winter and came from the date of termination. so we have a very pro-israel president. it's both symbolic and sensitive issues. it wasn't just his reading. it goes back to 1998. and on that visit, there is not a power politician named our real sharon. sharon offered to take push around and took them on this famous helicopter ride, we took both of israel habaneros part of israel whereas only nine miles from the mediterranean sea to the most and are part o