among those risking arrest ben cohen and jerry epstein. that's ben & jerry's, of course.e fonda has been arrested for the last four fries. joining me is heather reen. heather, you are working with republicans to try and make some progress on the climate discussion? >> i am. thanks for having me. we are working with republicans. i am bringing them to the table and recognizing the value of engaging and reducing emissions for the benefit of addressing climate change. >> all right. what is the road block? what is the difficulty? why is it tough to get republican lawmakers to move forward on this? >> i think there's been the wrong message and the wrong messenger, the wrong message in that we need big government command and control to kind of fix everything, and then the messenger who is coming forward. they're not necessarily credible. we need businesses coming in, we need organizations like mine that are coming in, talking about the economic value that clean energy, for instance, brings to the rural areas. red states produce a lot of clean energy, for instance. that means goo