reverend al sharpton is joined by george floyd's brother, philonise floyd, and the floyd attorney, ben crump. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'll be back in the chair tomorrow 3:00 p.m. eastern. the rev and "politicsnation" starts right now. >>> good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lede, crimes and punishments. right now we're not questioning if justice was done, but how much of it, as former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin begins his nearly 23-year prison sentence handed down friday for the murder of george floyd. it's been met with conflicted responses from black communities asking why the foremost symbol of american police brutality will be eligible for parole in a decade and a half. but if nothing else, there is now a modicum of closure for the floyd family, hopefully. still, that does not absolve our nation from seizing this reform moment. our law enforcement leaders need to reflect on the growing rifts between police and community. our prosecutors need to guarantee that no one is above the law or below it. and in just a moment, i will talk to civil rights attorney

later to testify about what they saw and to the flood family members themselves and their counsel, ben crump, tony, we say thank you. the lives of everyone who saw what happened to george floyd are forever changed. my hope for derek chauvin is that he uses his long sentence to reflect on the choices that he made on may 25, 2020. my hope is that he will find it within himself to acknowledge the impact of his choices on george floyd, his family, his fellow police officers, and the world. my hope is that he takes the time to learn something about the man whose life he took and about the movement that rose up to call for justice in the wake of george floyd's torture and death. today is also an important moment for our country. the outcome of this case is critically important, but by itself, it's not enough. my hope for our country is that this moment gives us pause and allows us to rededicate ourselves to the real societal change that will move us much further along the road to justice. i'm not talking about the kind of change that takes decades. i'm talking about real change, concrete change th

al sharpton and floyd family lawyer ben crump, held a conference outside of minneapolis. as we prepared to play -- to pray, sentencing is the longest sentence we have seen, but it is not justice or george floyd. chauvin will be in jail. but it does not feel like we are here to celebrate, because justice would have been george floyd never having been killed. justice would have been the maximum. we have been disappointed so many times before. 22 and a half years is longer we've ever gotten, but shorter than what we should have gotten. let us remember, a man lost his life, this is not a prayer of celebration, it is a prayer to thank god for giving the strength of this family and those activists that stayed in the streets to make sure this court had to do what was right. let me repeat for those in the back, because those are the ones that marched. this is the longest sentence they have ever given, but it is not justice. justice is george floyd would be alive. justice is that they would have -- have they done sentences like this before, maybe show that would not have thought h

but ben crump described it as historic sentencing. do you think there is sort of a massive tectonic shift in the debate over race, policing, and criminal justice as something that will continue? can this wave of protests be sustained? >> i think we are going to continue in this way. this conviction of 22.5 years is not enough for the family. it's not enough for the country. but what would be? 100 years? it's not really about the years. it's about how we are going to transform public safety in this country. for black people, the question, the statement for us is, stop killing us. that is when we will have justice as black people in this country. given the statement of one of his nephews, brandon williams, who said, our family is forever broken. it wouldn't have mattered how many years. it is not about a bad apple. it is about the system of policing. that is the work that will continue. we know that one conviction will not end the killing. >> there is a question of impunity, the abuse of power as an aggravating factor. that that is some

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we do have sound from reverend al sharpton and attorney ben crump. afterword, reacting to that sentencing. let's take a listen. >> dear god, we come to the same spot we bowed at the beginning of the trial, asking you to give this family strength and give them grace, and you brought us now to the end of this particular proceeding. they will say it is more time than any time in history, but we will say that history has been long under serving its citizens. and we honorably thank you for giving this family the strength to stand where other families did not even get a court date. >> yes. >> we remember eric garner, michael brown, we remember jacob blake, who is still with us. we remember tamir rice on his birthday. 19 years old, would have been today. we remember breonna taylor. they never got a court date. we did get a court date, conviction, and some time. some will say that his progress. >> you have been listening to reverend al sharpton, talking about today's historic sentencing of derek chauvin and really seeing that solitary from members of the com

ben crump, and what we hear people trying to do is strike a balance between how far the debate and the conversation has come with how much further varies to go in terms of racial injustice and inequality in american society. here with me all kelly county jackson and ronald sullivan and kelly. can i start by getting your thoughts because we heard revel. reverend al sharpton saying $22.00 and a half years is the longest sentence. it's ever been handed down. this has been described as historic sentencing, but he said it's not justice because this needs to be the norm, not the exception in a country where police officers are rarely prosecuted. i definitely agree that since we are not in a place where a police officer is going to deal as part of the norm or a part of the status quo, it is so rare that something like this happens. and so, you know, i think a lot of people are going to be trying to get their minds around this for the long term and thinking about what this means, not just for police reform, but how we might think about changes going head for everyone. this is something i'm goi

and of course for many people, the sentencing doesn't go far enough, but ben crump, who, hearing from you is described as historic sentencing. do you think they sort of massive tectonic shifts in the debate? at least of race policing and criminal justice is, is something that's going to continue. can this, this a wave of civil rights protest be sustained? yes. why? i think we're continuing this. i mean this conviction of $22.00 and a half year is not enough for the family is not enough for our country, but what would be a 100 years. i mean it. ringback is not really about the years, but it is about how are we going to transform public safety in this country for black people? the question is, the statement for us is stop killing. that when we will have justice and black people in this country. and so even the statement of one of his nephews brandon williams, who said our family is ever broken. so it wouldn't have mattered how many years. and it doesn't matter that it's just show them because again, it's not about a bad apple, but it is about the system of policing. and so that is the w

there and has stayed with the family and other families, let us bring into the family, attorney ben crump. >> thank you very much reverend for leading this family and country in prayer as we continue the struggle to make the words of justice real in america. i stand here with a great legal team. i stand firmly with the family of george floyd, attorney chris stewart, attorney justin miller, attorney tony rahman energy -- tony from illinois, and a tony jeff starnes from minneapolis, and we have the brothers of george floyd, terrence floyd, as well as brandon williams, we have his cousins, at home we have his sisters, and certainly his beautiful daughter who they tell me is smiling, saying her daddy changed the world and he he will talk more about that later. we want to acknowledge all of his family, we want to acknowledge all of the people who used their voice to say his name. say his name. >> george floyd! >> say his name! >> george floyd! >> today represents an opportunity for a turning point in america. this is the longest sentence that a police officer has ever been sentenced to in the

respond to the montage that we played that came after the sentencing of derek chauvin where you had ben crumpbers of the floyd family and the minnesota state attorney general saying, hey, senate, congress, pass the george floyd justice in policing act. your response to them? >> i couldn't agree with them more. we absolutely need to get it done. and what i'm deeply concerned about is that now that we have a little uptick in crime, that that is going to shift the debate and people will then say, forget police reform. we need the police to be unleashed. and we need reforms. we need to hold police accountable. we need transparency. we need to begin to look at public safety in our communities a little differently. >> in fact, in the washington post, we did a whole big series about reimagining public safety. but late in the week, just before the sentencing, stories -- a story broke. you and your co-negotiators said that there is a framework. we've got a framework. >> yes. >> we haven't seen the framework. what's in it? >> yes. well, basically the same components that we have been working on. there

we're getting a statement from the floyd family and their attorney, ben crump. this brings our family and the nation closer by healing close sure the and accountability for once a police officer wrongly took the live of a black man. it is tragic. day after day, your after year, police kill black people without consequence. today with chauvin's sentence, we take a significant stiff forward. something that was unimaginable a short time ago -- i'm looking at this final part. to achieve all of this, real lasting change in police departments from coast to coast, we need the u.s. senate to pass the george floyd justice and policing act without further delay. i had to get the rest hov that statement. i apologize for that. jonathan turley with us right now. jonathan, your thoughts on the 22 1/2 years and where this goes. >> this is pretty much in the zone that we discussed. many people wanted a 30-year sentence. the baseline for this offense is 150 months. that's 12 1/2 years. he got 22 1/2. so he had ten years tacked on. because the court found four aggravating circums

he's going to sit down with floyd's family attorney ben crump as well as floyd's cousin ahead of today's sentencing. you can watch that interview at 7:00, right after "today in the bay." >>> a mystery off the coast of san diego. right now you're looking at new video of a dolphin pod swimming through one of two oil sheens discovered over the weekend. the whale watching crews saw the sheen and flew a drone over it. one spill is floating near point loma. the other near san clemente island and the coast guard is calling them diesel spills that will break up naturally but not clear how that happened. >>> one no doubt about it home run for the bay area. we've got a look at oracle park reopening at 100% capacity for the first game of the bay bridge series. going to take you there with "today in the bay's" cierra johnson. she's live in san francisco this morning taking us out to the ball game for just a minute and tell us what we can expect if we're lucky enough to go. >> reporter: good morning, laura. game one of the bay bridge series will look a little different than some of the previous games

let us bring before we bring members of the family attorney ben crump. >> thank you. thank you very much, reverend al sharpton for leading this family and this country in prayer as we continue the struggle to make the words of liberty and justice for all real in america. i stand here with a great legal team, standing firmly with the family of george floyd. that is attorney chris stewart and attorney justin miller from atlanta, georgia. attorney tony ram muchi from chicago, illinois, and attorney jeff storms from right here in minneapolis. and at present we have the brothers of george floyd, philonise floyd, terrence floyd, and rodney floyd, as well as brandon williams. we have his cousins sharita and tara brown. we know at home we have his sisters bridget floyd, jaja floyd and latonya floyd, and certainly his beautiful daughter, chris tells me, is looking, smiling, saying that her daddy changed the world, and he will talk more about that later. and we want to acknowledge all his family. we want to acknowledge all of the people who used their voice to say his name. say

reverend al sharpton is joined by george floyd's brother, philonise floyd, and the floyd attorney, ben crumphair tomorrow 3:00 p.m. eastern. the rev and "politicsnation" starts right now. >>> good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lede, crimes and punishments. right now we're not questioning if justice was done, but how much of it, as former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin begins his nearly 23-year prison sentence handed down friday for the murder of george floyd. it's been met

. >> as you know, chief ramsey, the floyd-family attorney, ben crump, says this is one of the longest sentences ever given to a former-police officer. so, what message does this send to police officers who go ahead and abuse their power? >> well, i mean, it does send a message. and obviously,fficer should nev their power and authority. but remember, wolf, this is not a case of an officer making a split-second decision. or, you know, debating whether or not the use of force was more than what was actually needed. i mean, this is a clearcut case here. but again, it's not a reflection of policing, in general. i've done this for 47 years. and does it -- i mean, we have got some police officers that never should wear the badge. there's no question about that. but the vast majority do their job, and do it properly, each and every time. and so, you know, i just hope that people maintain that balance, in terms of trying to judge policing, in general. but derek chauvin, certainly, got what he deserved. there's no question about that. and anyone who acts like derek chauvin should take note that

let us bring -- before we bring members of the family, attorney ben crump. >> thank you. thank you very much, reverend al sharpton, for leading this family and this country in prayer as we continue to struggle to make the words of liberty and justice for all real in america. i stand here with a great legal team standing firmly with the family of george floyd, that is attorney chris stewart and attorney justin miller from atlanta, georgia, attorney from chicago, illinois, and attorney jeff storms from right here in minneapolis. and at present we have the brothers of george floyd, terrance floyd and rodney floyd as well as brandon williams. we have his cousins charita tate and we know at home we have his sisters bridget floyd and latonya floyd and certainly his beautiful daughter chris tells me is looking, smiling, saying that her daddy changed the world and he will talk more about that later. and we want to acknowledge all of his family. we want to acknowledge all of the people who used their voice to say his name. say his name! >> george floyd. >> say his name! >> george

cnn is watching this right now, and i've got ben crump coming.you guys are racist, and this is the only reason this is coming out. stop this right here. malia cohen, you said let's take care of the people's business in the open. well, let's take care of it by far on these guys. i'm done. >> vice president elias: thank you, officer babbs. i also wants to note, for the record, officer babbs, we did receive the materials that you send today to the commission office, and those materials that you have been provided since the close of evidence on june 7 have been collected and disbursed to each of the members on behalf of the commission. >> thank you. >> vice president elias: so i just wanted to make sure you were aware of that. so at this time, what i want to do is open it up to my fellow colleagues and my fellow commissioners with any questions. i think you, commissioner hamasaki, are in the queue? >> commissioner hamasaki: i am in the queue, vice president elias, and i'd like to start with officer babbs. can you clarify what the standing of the stat

cnn is watching this right now, and i've got ben crump coming.you guys are racist, and this is the only reason this is coming out. stop this right here. malia cohen, you said let's take care of the people's business in the open. well, let's take care of it by far on these guys. i'm done. >> vice president elias: thank you, officer babbs. i also wants to note, for the record, officer babbs, we did receive the materials that you send today to the commission office, and those materials that you have been provided since the close of evidence on june 7 have been collected and disbursed to each of the members on behalf of the commission. >> thank you. >> vice president elias: so i just wanted to make sure you were aware of that. so at this time, what i want to do is open it up to my fellow colleagues and my fellow commissioners with any questions. i think you, commissioner hamasaki, are in the queue? >> commissioner hamasaki: i am in the queue, vice president elias, and i'd like to start with officer babbs. can you clarify what the standing of the stat

al sharpton and floyd family lawyer ben crump, held a conference outside of minneapolis. this is about 40 minutes. >> as we prepare to bring family of jacob blake who is with us, and the family of daunte wright is with us, this verdict and this sentencing is the longest sentence we have seen, but it is not justice or george floyd. chauvin will be in jail. but it does not feel like we are here to celebrate, because justice would have been george floyd never having been killed. justice would have been the maximum. we have been disappointed so many times before. 22 and a half years is longer we've ever gotten, but shorter than what we should have gotten. let us remember, a man lost his life, this is not a prayer of celebration, it is a prayer to thank god for giving the strength of this family and those