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civil rights lawyer ben crump spoke in buffalo monday. >> what happened on saturday was an act of domestic terrorism. and we have to define it as such. we can't sugarcoat it. we can't try to explain it away talking about mental illness. no. this was an act of domestic terrorism. perpetrated by a young white supremacist. amy: we will have the latest on the buffalo massacre after headlines. in california, officials in orange county say sunday's mass shooting at a church in laguna woods was a politically motivated hate crime targeting the taiwanese community. >> it is believed the suspect involved was upset about political tensions between china antaiwan. amy: police named the suspect, 68-year-old david chou of las vegas, a chinese immigrant and u.s. citizen. he reportedly placed molotov cocktails around the church and chained exit doors shut before opening fire on a congregation gathered for a luncheon. dr. john chang died in the assault, and four others were rushed to the hospital with gunshot wounds. on monday, orange county officials hailed dr. chang as a hero who rushed the gunman, givin
civil rights lawyer ben crump spoke in buffalo monday. >> what happened on saturday was an act of domestic terrorism. and we have to define it as such. we can't sugarcoat it. we can't try to explain it away talking about mental illness. no. this was an act of domestic terrorism. perpetrated by a young white supremacist. amy: we will have the latest on the buffalo massacre after headlines. in california, officials in orange county say sunday's mass shooting at a church in laguna woods was...
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>> reporter: attorney ben crump is representing the whitfield family and is demanding accountability beyond the suspect. >> the people who curate the hate, the people who inspire the hate on websites and internet services and cable news stations. >> reporter: new york state officials say the suspect, who lived hundreds of miles away, threatened a shooting at his high school lt ye ploedar. this attack over several months, and they're looking at a 180-page document he posted online describing himself as a white supremacist and an anti-semite. at the white house president biden paid tribute to aaron salter, a retired police officer who worked as a store security guard. >> he actually was able to shoot the assailant twice, but he had on a bulletproof vest, and he lost his life in the process. >> reporter: the president is expected to travel to buffalo tomorrow to grieve with the community. michael george, cbs news, buffalo, new york. >> the suspect is being held on suicide watch. he's being held on bail. el he will be arraigned on thursday. >>> one person died, five others were hurt when
>> reporter: attorney ben crump is representing the whitfield family and is demanding accountability beyond the suspect. >> the people who curate the hate, the people who inspire the hate on websites and internet services and cable news stations. >> reporter: new york state officials say the suspect, who lived hundreds of miles away, threatened a shooting at his high school lt ye ploedar. this attack over several months, and they're looking at a 180-page document he posted...
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about the future of race religion -- i will talk tonight on this show with civil rights attorney ben crump, joined by george floyd's brother. about which black america needs to see and what they need to see change after buffalo. would it could mean for democrats if they don't. joining me now, congressman johnson of georgia. democrat and member of the house judiciary committee. congressman, thanks for joining us tonight. ahead of your stage primaries tuesday president strums candidate for governor, david perdue is badly -- behind brian kemp. because i don't have to tell you that trump's backing of perdue's largely to punish camp for refusing to help the former president undermine the 2020 election results in georgia. with that in mind, why are these primaries in your state so important to the rest of your country, congressman? e rest>> well, very important reverend al, thank you for having me today. voters in georgia, have an opportunity to repudiate donald trump and his big lie. perhaps once and for all but i doubt that he will probably be on the ballot himself in 2024. but his preferred c
about the future of race religion -- i will talk tonight on this show with civil rights attorney ben crump, joined by george floyd's brother. about which black america needs to see and what they need to see change after buffalo. would it could mean for democrats if they don't. joining me now, congressman johnson of georgia. democrat and member of the house judiciary committee. congressman, thanks for joining us tonight. ahead of your stage primaries tuesday president strums candidate for...
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she seemed absolutely lovely and ben, my friend, ben crump, thank you as always.next, polls are closing in north carolina, and we'll close in about 30 minutes in pennsylvania. steve karnaky standing by at the big board with the latest. we'll be right back. y at the big board with the latest. we'll be right back. throug you're covered by our happiness check out angi.com today. angi... and done. ♪ with my hectic life, you'd think retirement would be the last thing on my mind. hey mom, can i go play video games? sure! ...after homework. thankfully, voya provides comprehensive solutions, and shows me how to get the most out of my workplace benefits. what's the wi-fi password again? here... you... go. cool, thanks. no problem. voya helps me feel like i got it all under control. because i do. oh, she is good. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected. it's time for our memorial day sale on the sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your movement and automatically adjusts so you both stay comfortable, well invested. and can help you get almost 30 minutes more rest
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the unimaginable grief visible at a press conference today with family attorney ben crump. >> this was an act of domestic terrorism perpetrated by a young white supremist. >> reporter: mrs. whitfield's son, garrnell whitfield, was buffalo's former fire commissioner. >> we're devastated. we're devastated. we're a very close family. we're a very, very close family. and my mother was the glue that held us all together. >> reporter: his parents were married for 68 years. >> i will remember my mom as a -- as a -- the strongest person i've ever known. my mom loved us unconditionally. she supported us unconditionally. >> reporter: the gunman's attack that killed ruth whitfield and nine others began at approximately 2:30 in the afternoon on saturday. >> active shooter at the tops. still shots being fired. >> reporter: the shooter opening fire as soon as he got out of his car, striking four people in the parking lot, killing three, and then storming the store. >> contact homicide. we have bodies out here. >> he shot a woman. he shot a deacon. he shot another woman. and then he went in the store
the unimaginable grief visible at a press conference today with family attorney ben crump. >> this was an act of domestic terrorism perpetrated by a young white supremist. >> reporter: mrs. whitfield's son, garrnell whitfield, was buffalo's former fire commissioner. >> we're devastated. we're devastated. we're a very close family. we're a very, very close family. and my mother was the glue that held us all together. >> reporter: his parents were married for 68 years....
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white gunman targeted and killed 10 black people at a supermarket that was civil rights attorney ben crump. and he pressed for the attack to be defined as an act of terrorism after law enforcement announced the tragedy is being investigated as a hate crime. investigators in buffalo continue to sift through evidence retrace the steps that lead up to saturday's shooting inside the crowded supermarket. kevin freeman is in buffalo tonight. he joins us with the very latest on the investigation. kevin, what can you tell us? >> well, i can tell you, president biden and the first lady doctor jill biden, they are expected to come visit the scene and speak 2 relatives tomorrow. now in the meantime, the parking lot here in that at the supermarket and the around the area remains a crime scene tonight. now, despite the lives that were lost were lost here at this location. investigators say the teenage gunman's plans did not end here. they say if he had if he had not been caught, he was going to shoot some more at yet another grocery store. a makeshift memorial grows outside of the tops friendly market
white gunman targeted and killed 10 black people at a supermarket that was civil rights attorney ben crump. and he pressed for the attack to be defined as an act of terrorism after law enforcement announced the tragedy is being investigated as a hate crime. investigators in buffalo continue to sift through evidence retrace the steps that lead up to saturday's shooting inside the crowded supermarket. kevin freeman is in buffalo tonight. he joins us with the very latest on the investigation....
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. >> reporter: attorney ben crump is representing the whitfield family and is demanding accountability beyond the suspect. >> the people who curate the hate, the people who inspire the hate on websites and internet services and cable news stations. >> reporter: new york state officials say the suspect, who lived hundreds of miles away, threatened a shooting at his high school last year. investigators say he plotted this attack over several months, and they're looking at a 180-page document he posted online, describing himself as a white supremacist and an anti-semmite. at the white house, president biden paid tribute to aaron salter, a retired police officer who worked as a store security guard. >> he actually was able to shoot the assailant twice, but he had on a bulletproof vest, and he lost his life in the process. >> reporter: let's talk more about that threat the suspect allegedly made last year. according to law enforcement, he was given a mental health evaluation, but he was never charged with a crime, and he was never barred from owning firearms. law enforcement officials say i
. >> reporter: attorney ben crump is representing the whitfield family and is demanding accountability beyond the suspect. >> the people who curate the hate, the people who inspire the hate on websites and internet services and cable news stations. >> reporter: new york state officials say the suspect, who lived hundreds of miles away, threatened a shooting at his high school last year. investigators say he plotted this attack over several months, and they're looking at a...
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white gunman targeted and killed 10 black people at a supermarket that was civil rights attorney ben crumpand he pressed for the attack to be defined as an act of terrorism after law enforcement announced the tragedy is being investigated as a hate crime. investigators in buffalo continue to sift through evidence retrace the steps that lead up to saturday's shooting inside the crowded supermarket. kevin freeman is in buffalo tonight. he joins us with the very latest on the investigation. kevin, what can you tell us? >> well, i can tell you, president biden and the first lady doctor jill biden, they are expected to come visit the scene and speak 2 relatives tomorrow. now in the meantime, the parking lot here in that at the supermarket and the around e
white gunman targeted and killed 10 black people at a supermarket that was civil rights attorney ben crumpand he pressed for the attack to be defined as an act of terrorism after law enforcement announced the tragedy is being investigated as a hate crime. investigators in buffalo continue to sift through evidence retrace the steps that lead up to saturday's shooting inside the crowded supermarket. kevin freeman is in buffalo tonight. he joins us with the very latest on the investigation. kevin,...
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before there was a ben crump for a johnny cochrane, there was a man called fred gray, who was the eternityment. he'll be with me right after this. he'll be with me rightthing youd to keep your summer rollin'. because when you save money, you can live better. this i'm still drawn to what's next. even with higher stroke risk due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin that's a trail i want to take. eliquis. eliquis reduces stroke risk better than warfarin. and has less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis has both. don't stop taking eliquis without talking to your doctor as this may increase your risk of stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking, you may bruise more easily or take longer for bleeding to stop. get help right away for unexpected bleeding, or unusual bruising. it may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. the number one cardio
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private, but yesterday the families of the victims held an emotional press conference with attorney ben crump funeral. patter soviet republic's ex-wife spoke up as her 12-year-old son cried silently. >> his heart is broken. he half sleeps, half eats and as a mother what am i supposed to do to help him get through this? i need a village to help me. >> we will. >> raise and be here for my son because he has no father. >> other family members of the victims shared their grief and anger over the senseless violence as well and, again, this is hard to watch. >> i cannot believe somebody would give some child a go up and let him think that it's okay and come in somebody's hometown to shoot it up, just to shoot people down like dogs. that doesn't make any sense mo me. >> i constantly think about what could have been done, and it seems like this is -- it's like groundhog's day. we've seen this over and over and over again. >> that racist young man took my mother away. >> how dare you? >> i'm joined now by bishop william barber co-chairman of the poor people's campaign. sorry. i have a policy about cry
private, but yesterday the families of the victims held an emotional press conference with attorney ben crump funeral. patter soviet republic's ex-wife spoke up as her 12-year-old son cried silently. >> his heart is broken. he half sleeps, half eats and as a mother what am i supposed to do to help him get through this? i need a village to help me. >> we will. >> raise and be here for my son because he has no father. >> other family members of the victims shared their...
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and ben crump, thank you so much. >>> up next, the latest on the war in ukraine.turning to kyiv and nato signaling that ukraine could have the battlefield momentum. we'll take you to the front lines for the battle of kharkiv, where the fight is raging just a few miles from the russianan border. (fisher investments) it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same, but at fisher investments we're clearly different. (other money manager) different how? you sell high commission investnt products, right? (fisher investments) nope.. (other money manager) well, you mustarn commissions on trades. (fisher investments) never at fisher. (other money manager) ok, then you probably sneak in some hidden and layered fees. (fisher investments) no. we structure our fees so we do better when clients do better. that might be why most of our clients come from other money managers. at fisher investments, we're clearly different. do your eyes bother you? because after all these emails my eyes feel like a combo of stressed, dry and sandpaper. luckily, there's biotrue
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expecting to see some of the lawyers who were involved in this thing including civil rights lawyer ben crumpepresent the whitfield family and some others. so getting some idea of what the service is going to be, probably not a lot of talk about the legalities and the lawsuits, but that's something that's going to come down the road. back to you. >> all right, thanks so much. republican senator john cornyn says bipartisan talks on gun reform legislation are, quote, just getting started. democratic senator joe manchin who met with the bipartisan group this week says so far it's been very encouraging. daniela, what else do we know senator manchin said about that meeting, and just how real is this optimism? >> well, let me read you what he told reporters on thursday after this bipartisan group met, jessica. he said he called it, quote, very encouraging this group met. and he said the atmosphere, quote, feels different than it did in the days after sandy hook, that horrific shooting that also took place at an elementary school. he said, quote, it's just encouraging to see that there's a way, a pa
expecting to see some of the lawyers who were involved in this thing including civil rights lawyer ben crumpepresent the whitfield family and some others. so getting some idea of what the service is going to be, probably not a lot of talk about the legalities and the lawsuits, but that's something that's going to come down the road. back to you. >> all right, thanks so much. republican senator john cornyn says bipartisan talks on gun reform legislation are, quote, just getting started....
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civil rights attorney ben crump blames the gunman and those who influenced him to commit the act. >> these people who are talking about this race replacement theory, radicalizing these young impressionable minds to go out and do irrational acts because they know they have an irrational audience. >> police were called to his high school last june after he made teatening remarks. but after a mental health evaluation, he was free to go. the impacts of that release are now reverberating throughout this city and the country. >> this is our mother. this is our lives. we need help. we're asking you to help you change. this can't keep happening. >> the president and first lady will make a trip to buffalo tomorrow to meet with families and see the grieving community firsthand. for the pbs newshour, i'm cat wise in buffalo, new york. judy: this attack -- like too many before it -- is leading to a renewed conversation and for some, self-examination on questions of race, white supremacy, and extremist ideology. we're going to focus on some of those questions ourselves with eric ward. he has long
civil rights attorney ben crump blames the gunman and those who influenced him to commit the act. >> these people who are talking about this race replacement theory, radicalizing these young impressionable minds to go out and do irrational acts because they know they have an irrational audience. >> police were called to his high school last june after he made teatening remarks. but after a mental health evaluation, he was free to go. the impacts of that release are now reverberating...
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civil rights attorney, ben crump, who we just heard from pressed for the attack to be defined as an act of terrorism. and this hate-fueled shooting happened inside a supermarket in a predominantly black neighborhood. reporter kevin freeman has reaction now from that community. >> a makeshift memorial grows outside of the tops friendly market on the east side of buffalo, new york. monday, the scene of a deadly and horrific mass shooting saturday afternoon. >> a is suing all side window meme helpless people didn't have a gun to shoot back around 02:30pm, 18 year-old payton gendron according to police. >> joe, for several hours across the state and opened fire first in the parking lot of the grocery store before going inside. >> police say a total of 13 people were shot. most of them african-american, 10 of them died. >> investigators and the city's mayor say the deadly attack was racially motivated. >> this racist killer had absolutely 0 regard for the sanctity of human life and was here for the express purpose of taking as many black lives as he possibly could. >> i see him this shooting
civil rights attorney, ben crump, who we just heard from pressed for the attack to be defined as an act of terrorism. and this hate-fueled shooting happened inside a supermarket in a predominantly black neighborhood. reporter kevin freeman has reaction now from that community. >> a makeshift memorial grows outside of the tops friendly market on the east side of buffalo, new york. monday, the scene of a deadly and horrific mass shooting saturday afternoon. >> a is suing all side...
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he and his attorney, ben crump say they plan to pursue legal action in this. as for the shooter, he pleaded guilty to first-degree murder over the weekend, expected back in court on thursday, and then of course we expect president biden to visit with the families tomorrow. >> omar jimenez, thank you so much. >>> listen, ten people, their lives gone here and we have discussed how this impacts individual families, but as we learned at the top of the show, this impacts the community on a large scale. these were puzzle pieces in this commu community, in this world. the beloved grandmother of six, who battled breast cancer a few years ago, her grandson planned to surprise her with flowers, perfume, a home-cooked meal. you see her on the screen here. pearl young, 77 years old, worked for years as a substitute teacher in the buffalo public school district. >> she was always giving. for over 25 years, she was in the central park plaza in buffalo, new york, running a food pantry. giving and helping and being faithful to her church. she was at a prayer breakfast. now, i
he and his attorney, ben crump say they plan to pursue legal action in this. as for the shooter, he pleaded guilty to first-degree murder over the weekend, expected back in court on thursday, and then of course we expect president biden to visit with the families tomorrow. >> omar jimenez, thank you so much. >>> listen, ten people, their lives gone here and we have discussed how this impacts individual families, but as we learned at the top of the show, this impacts the community...
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and also some of the lawyers that have come to be involved in this case including ben crump, also terencettorney who has quite a bit of familiarity with suing people in situations like this. in fact, he did sue some gun manufacturers in another case essentially on a theory of public nuisance. so that might give you some idea of where the lawyers think they might be able to go with this case, but a very sad day here in new york, quite frankly. meanwhile the question is what is america going to do about it? as you know up on capitol hill the negotiations continue to get some kind of legislation. back to you. >> all right. joe johns, good to see you this morning. thank you so much for the update. and we have to remember memorial day weekend is where we are right now together. and i want to show you a live look here. that is the tomb of the unknown soldier, of course, at arlington national cemetery right outside the nation's capitol. and you see people there, members of the public allowed today to lay flowers before the sacred memorial site. it's of course in tribute to our country's unidenti
and also some of the lawyers that have come to be involved in this case including ben crump, also terencettorney who has quite a bit of familiarity with suing people in situations like this. in fact, he did sue some gun manufacturers in another case essentially on a theory of public nuisance. so that might give you some idea of where the lawyers think they might be able to go with this case, but a very sad day here in new york, quite frankly. meanwhile the question is what is america going to...
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attorney ben crump is representing the families killed in the massacre. >> he says he's imploring the president to pass an anti-black, a hate crime bill in congress. meantime, on capitol hill, democratic lawmakers are calling on both parties to denounce hateful speech. that's fueling the violence and mass shootings of times past. >> it's the same idea that motivated another man too, gunned down african-americans in charleston, south carolina. another man to gun down hispanic americans in el paso. we have a domestic terrorism problem in america. >> the president paid tribute to the victims during a medal ceremony for first responders today. he will be heading to buffalo tomorrow to meet with the families of the victims. the mass shooting in buffalo has shed light on the increase of hate crimes to continue to take place across the country. in 180 page online post full of neo-nazi references. this 18 year-old expresses beliefs shared by gunmen of previous massacres. kron four's ella sogomonian is live with us from the newsroom with reaction from the center for the study of hate and extre
attorney ben crump is representing the families killed in the massacre. >> he says he's imploring the president to pass an anti-black, a hate crime bill in congress. meantime, on capitol hill, democratic lawmakers are calling on both parties to denounce hateful speech. that's fueling the violence and mass shootings of times past. >> it's the same idea that motivated another man too, gunned down african-americans in charleston, south carolina. another man to gun down hispanic...
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and i talked to ben crump over the weekend, civil rights attorney who happens to be one of the attorneys for one of the victim's families and he said there needs to be more laws, not just gun laws, but laws about hate that they can create laws about asian hate, why not create laws about hate on black americans? >> astead, last one to you. this president knows the effort of trying to get gun legislation passed. he was the point person in the obama administration in 2013 after the shooting at sandy hook, and could not get even universal background checks, which has huge support, especially in the polls at that time. if it couldn't happen after 4 and 5-year-olds were mowed down in a classroom, what makes it any more possible now? >> yeah. i think this is -- we should be clear here. the likelihood of this passing is low. you know, no one knows that more than president biden himself. he was there in 2013, as you mentioned, when that legislation failed and we only have a more divided congress, a congress that seems more unlikely to pass any legislation on that president's major part of his age
and i talked to ben crump over the weekend, civil rights attorney who happens to be one of the attorneys for one of the victim's families and he said there needs to be more laws, not just gun laws, but laws about hate that they can create laws about asian hate, why not create laws about hate on black americans? >> astead, last one to you. this president knows the effort of trying to get gun legislation passed. he was the point person in the obama administration in 2013 after the shooting...
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civil rights attorney ben crump also discussing it, as i just mentioned, as domestic terror. >> this was an act of domestic terrorism perpetrated by a young white supremacist. just like america responds to terrorism, america needs to respond to this act of bigotry, racism, and hate as a terrorist act. >> that's a powerful call from mr. crump, who you may recognize, who deals with civil rights issues and policing issues around the nation. so let's get into this right now, because he just asked about america responding, which goes beyond just the government or justice system response. how do we as a nation deal with what is happening, because it happened this weekend, but it's not done happening. law enforcement officials say this alleged shooter posted 180-page manifesto online just days before the attack, and it draws on and references replacement theory at least 28 times. that is a racist conspiracy theory that basically in western countries like the united states and some countries in europe, some type of racial and religious group of external minorities from somewhere else in the
civil rights attorney ben crump also discussing it, as i just mentioned, as domestic terror. >> this was an act of domestic terrorism perpetrated by a young white supremacist. just like america responds to terrorism, america needs to respond to this act of bigotry, racism, and hate as a terrorist act. >> that's a powerful call from mr. crump, who you may recognize, who deals with civil rights issues and policing issues around the nation. so let's get into this right now, because he...
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. >> charles, ben crump there also talked about needing this hope before they're asked to go back toa tone but it is a problem for the administration now because they've already set a tone. so, the president stood up in the state of the union address and said that we don't need to defund the police, we need to fund the police even more, we need more policing. one of the things that an executive order can do, one, it can allow agents -- basically it would be direct agency, so agencies can collect more data on things, they can study things, that's what an executive order could do. it can't make criminal law so it won't be able to do that, but it can direct agencies to give more money to states or to withhold money from states, depending on how they behave on certain metrics. well, if you've already said, in the state of the union address, that you believe that the answer here is to give more money to local policing, it's very hard to change that tone. that is what is now on the record. that is one of the biggest speeches that any president is ever going to give is a state of the union
. >> charles, ben crump there also talked about needing this hope before they're asked to go back toa tone but it is a problem for the administration now because they've already set a tone. so, the president stood up in the state of the union address and said that we don't need to defund the police, we need to fund the police even more, we need more policing. one of the things that an executive order can do, one, it can allow agents -- basically it would be direct agency, so agencies can...