we have the host of ben ferguson podcast. he's conservative congressmen cater ben ferguson.nk you for joining us. let's have you sit tieing. we want to -- tight. we want you to listen to this, california governor gavin newsom is admitting they cleaned up san francisco, but not for taxpayers who pay the bills there. watch this. >> i know folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town. that's true because it's true. but it's also true for months and months and months prior to apec, we've been having different conversations. elizabeth: different conversations about what, ben? you can see him buying time. he did a kamala harris. he was just repeating the same sentence because he's trying to think on his feet. he didn't have an answer. go ahead, ben. >> yeah, that's true because that's true. like that may be the most truthful statement he's ever given and yous stick that on a poster board and there's your governor of california. but there's two parts here that bother me. one is the fact you've got a governor that's clearly

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