ben ginsberg, is that an accurate description of what happened? i will expand the question by asking, did the democratic party also come close to a hostile takeover by bernie sanders and his supporters? and what are the implications of these very unusual events for the future of elliptical parties? -- future of political parties? ben: that is fine if that is where you would like to start. i think donald trump has succeeded in triangulating all the party alignments. it is tough to know what the base of the party is, what the core constituencies are. i take a little bit of exception to the assumption in the question, if you look at the way donald trump has named his first 15 cabinet people, which is a fairly traditional act. you have three generals in national security positions. we are perceived as the party of the billionaires although we can argue with that. you have seven or eight people who are people with -- who are loyalists to donald trump and have movement conservative credentials. that looks like a traditional government at least in the fi

come up with something, a set of rules that no one can understand unless they have people like ben ginsberg advising them at every step of the way. ben is a very talented fellow. they're not all -- you don't see ben ginsberg in some rural county somewhere that knows federal election campaign regulations and is willing to do it on a voluntary basis. and even if he did, they still wouldn't be able to follow the advice, most likely. it's hard to overemphasize how bad the situation is, generally. >> let's situate this in the broader context of what's going on globally. because this is a problem that's affecting democracy everywhere. it's a big part of the vote in brexit. it's the rural areas that are alienated. it's a big part of the vote that just took place in italy, rejecting the referendum. it's the rural areas. what has happened over the last 20 or 30 years, for whatever set of reasons, is there's been more and more concentration of power, financial power, cultural power, political power, in the dominant cities. and rural voters, whether they're in england, france, italy, the united states

come up with something, a set of rules that no one can understand unless they have people like ben ginsberg advising them at every step of the way. ben is a very talented fellow. they're not all -- you don't see ben ginsberg in some rural county somewhere that knows federal election campaign regulations and is willing to do it on a voluntary basis. and even if he did, they still wouldn't be able to follow the advice, most likely. it's hard to overemphasize how bad the situation is, generally. >> let's situate this in the broader context of what's going on globally. because this is a problem that's affecting democracy everywhere. it's a big part of the vote in brexit. it's the rural areas that are alienated. it's a big part of the vote that just took place in italy, rejecting the referendum. it's the rural areas. what has happened over the last 20 or 30 years, for whatever set of reasons, is there's been more and more concentration of power, financial power, cultural power, political power, in the dominant cities. and rural voters, whether they're in england, france, italy, the united states

great idea, let's come up with a set of rules that no one can understand if they have people like ben ginsberg advising them at every step of the way. ben is a very talented fellow. you do not see ben ginsberg in some world counties somewhere that does federal election campaign regulations and is on ay -- ready to do it voluntary basis, they still would not be able to follow the advice. it is hard to overemphasize how bad the situation is. let's set this in the situation of what is going on or broccoli. this is a problem affecting democracy everywhere. it is a big part of the vote for brexit. the rural areas that are alienated. it is a big part of that just took place in italy. it is the rural areas. what is happened over the last 20 or 30 years, for whatever set of reasons is there has been more and more concentration of power, financial power, cultural power, political power in the dominant cities. and were rural voters, whether england, france, italy, the united states, feel increasingly alienated from power, ignored by those in power, condescended to by those in power, responded to by thos

my name is ben ginsberg, and i am delighted that we have as our speaker today, naomi schaefer, who is a distinguished journalist and writer who's written for many publications including "the wall street journal," the chronicle of higher education, the weekly standard, too many to list, and is also the author of six books with a seven on its way to. i went to graduate school with her father which tells you how old i am. he's a little ahead of me. i first met naomi when we debated one another for "the new york times" blogging heads series. she wrote a book called "the faculty lounges," which was an attack on the tenure system which i thought it was outrageous. i'd written a book called "fall of the faculty," which defended the tenure system. so we had good fun debating that entire set of questions. i'm very confident that i have one but i have to confess she held herself very, very well. her most recent book deals with the topic most of us don't know much about the shameful condition of the indian reservations and the treatment that native americans receive from the federal government p

when we plan this conference ben ginsberg and i can about six months ago i thought what it was going to be about is here so hillary clinton's campaign marginally improved on barack obama's campaign of 2008 or 2012. here's the new digital tools and how she won. needless to say how she won. needless to say we had to change the topic. in part not because there's a surprise victory but there's all kinds of other issues dealing with the campaign who knew we would have to talk about macedonia teenagers putting up websites or fake news. that was not something that could be forecasted within the last eight months or year. so there is a to say. your question is a big one. then we talk about three things. first, digital tools are only tools, the fundamentals of a campaign and the quality of the candidate are not affected by those tools. secondly, there are things that trumped it in this campaign which were innovative, unexpected and not well know the need to be talked about. third, a larger question as to what the digital campaign is in this environment given how many changes we've seen in new

. >> ben ginsberg. >> kellyanne, congratulations. >> thank you. >> always good to have a wily politicalwere talking with your role with the president-elect, what's the mix that you think you'll be taking on between long-term strategic issues and the sort of emergency firefight of the day? >> i think anyone's portfolio includes some of that. i don't imagine that we'll be a white house that's immune to unforeseen circumstances and events. this happens every time. i have spoken to people who have had a role similar to this in previous administrations, democratic and republican, and it's an important balance. it's going in every day and focusing on what your portfolio is, what you are expected to do on behalf of the president of the united states. at the same time, being flexible and nimble enough to recognize that there will be times when you can't even -- you're taking off of that and there are crises to deal with or there are unforeseen circumstances that have popped up. i mean, i know donald trump, and he's a leader who is able to be nimble and resilient, and just as politically speakin

when we planned this conference, ben ginsberg and i come about six months ago, thought what the conference was going to be about was -- cap here is how hillary clinton's campaign marginally improved on barack obama's campaign of 2012 and here's how she won. needless to say, we had to change the topic. in part just not because it was a surprise victory by donald trump but there are all kinds of other issues. who knew we would have to talk about macedonian teenagers putting up websites? or robots? this is not something that could've been forecast in the last eight months or year or anything like that. there is a lot to be said. it is a big question. let me tell you about three things. digital tools are only pills, right? the fundamentals of the campaign and the quality of the candidate are not affected by those rules. thatdly, there are things donald trump did in this campaign that were innovative, unexpected, and not well known that i think the degree talked about in the third is sort of a larger question as to what even the digital campaign is in this environment given how many changes we

ginsberg who is a former mideast jimmyr to president carter. later, liz farmer talks about federal grant money being used by large ♪ trump wentdent-elect to nominate armor presidential candidate, dr. benarson as the head of housing and urban development. dr. carson was his choice to advance his agenda for urban renewal and the inner-city. this is the washington journal for december 5. we will talk more on that later. the decision yesterday concerning an oil pipeline. the obama administration has put on hold a project in north dakota. that is known as the dakota protest -- dakota axis pipeline. we will learn more about the construction and the decision by the obama administration. if you have been following it, we want to get your input. if you're a north dakota resident and you want to give your thoughts on this decision, call us. if you want to post on twitter, you can do so. you can put a thought on facebook. the usa today has a story that takes a look at this decision by the administration concerning this dakota access pipeline. the headline controversial type on put on hold. the company did not respond to a comment but adding to the story that the eye blind was set to cross the ri

ginsberg who is a former mideast jimmyr to president carter. later, liz farmer talks about federal grant money being used by large ♪ trump wentdent-elect to nominate armor presidential candidate, dr. benn as the head of housing and urban development. dr. carson was his choice to advance his agenda for urban renewal and the inner-city. this is the washington journal for december 5. we will talk more on that later. the decision yesterday concerning an oil pipeline. the obama administration has put on hold a project in north dakota. that is known as the dakota protest --