ben ginsberg and anita dunn. ♪ mark: our guests tonight, ben ginsberg and anita dunn. s get your assessment on where the presidential campaigns star, then we will hear from you quickly on the republican and democratic side. ben: very fluid on the republican side, all of them feeling their way through a different political year. still anyone's race. on the democratic side, god, i love watching it. [laughter] anita: that is kind of the way we democrats are feeling every time we see the republicans on tv. ben and i can share that. on the democratic side, we are about to enter the next period, debates, speeches, a lot more high-level engagement. there are a couple things i'm looking for. one is the september 30 fundraising reports. we all expect hillary clinton to have done well. the real question is what does bernie sanders look like? i suspect his online fundraising is going to be very impressive, based on everything we have seen so far. two will be that first debate. obviously there is a question of whether there are five or six people -- i don't know the answer. but i t

. ♪ is thenr guest tonight andberg -- ben ginsberg anita dunn.y getting our basic assessment of where the residential campaign started. and i want to hear what you think quickly on the republican side in democratic side. guest: very fluid on the republican side. all of them feeling their way through a very different political year. still anyone's race i think. side, i lovec logic. guest: i think we can share that emotion there. on the democratic side, we are about to enter the next period of engagement. debates, speeches, more high-level engagement. there are a couple things i'm looking for. one is the september 30 fundraising reports. the real question is what is the bernie sanders look like. the second is his online fundraising will be very impressive. debate.first there are questions about whether there are five or six people. i don't know the answer to that but what are the strategies the candidates bring into that debate can be quite interesting. on the republican side, the assumption that somehow gravity was going to bring some people down