listen to what the coauthor of the report and republican election lawyer ben ginsburg, told the january committee. >> the 2020 election was not close. the most narrow margin was 10,000 something in arizona. and you just do not make up those sorts of numbers, in recounts. that put the trump campaign, on a process, of bringing cases without the actual evidence, that you have, the simple fact, is that the trump campaign, did not make its case. >> for more on all of this, we are joined now by another coauthor of this new report, dave hoppy. dave was the former chief of staff, to then house speaker, paul ryan. dave, it's a pleasure to have you here this morning. i'm grateful that you are taking the time, to spend with us. this report called lost, not stolen, it's a doozy. it runs about 69 pages, with 280 footnotes. you any other coauthors prepared, it to be quote, digestible, and easily understood. tell us who, was the intended audience for your report? >> well katie, the intended audience, are conservatives, who have looked at, this and, they have, in some cases, not taken it at the deep di

and former counsel to the republican national -- and congressional committee, ben ginsburg. k you both for joining us. i think this is a very important report in segment. i'm so glad that you're both here. good evening. ben, i'm gonna start with you. the report found no signs of fraud, not a single shred just, period. -- so important to issue this report? >> we heard what donald trump said in the election, those are extremely serious charges that our elections don't work. if, in fact, there was any evidence behind that, the system needs to be fixed, but if there is no evidence behind it, that needs to be said because of the corrosive effect that the allegations he was making is having on the democracy. that's why we undertook the thorough report. >> michael, you looked at more than 60 cases, 20 were dismissed before hearing, 30 were dropped by trump's supporters, 30 had a hearing and lost. republicans still continue to push his lie, why, what is going on? >> i can only think that most people have not taken the time or the trouble to actually look behind the allegations. so, t

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. >> ben ginsburg, the preeminent republican party election attorney who has battled with democrats onrecounts and recalls, was watching. >> when i first heard that press conference i said, oh, my god, can that really be true? because if there was nothing there they wouldn't just be making it up. and then they went through the entire press conference, and i sort of remember looking out the window and saying they just made all that up. >> they did. this campaign memo from six days before the press conference first reported by "the new york times," says dominion has no company ties to venezuela. dominion and one of its former employees would later sue giuliani and powell for more than a billion dollars. a court document filed by powell's lawyers said, quote, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact. someone should tell that to the republican national committee because they still have powell's lies in its social media feed. in a deposition for another related case, giuliani said he got his information about a former dominion employee having ant