ed: ben gliklich.s so much on this show on the gpu, cpu analog level but we are talking about circuit boards and the greater circuits and what they all have in common is they are rethinking their supply chain. we are heading toward this kind of decoupling from china. we have done a lot of reporting at bloomberg about apple wanting to shift some of its supply base from china to india. his somebody involved in -- is somebody involved and that supply chain is simple as that? >> we like to say chips don't float. products used in semi and factoring, putting chips under circuit boards and making high-performance circuit boards. the printed circuit board market is primarily an asian market but we are seeing a shift toward something called china plus one. supply chains are moving outside china to places like india, vietnam, taiwan, malaysia, even some greenfield investment in north america, mexico, and the u.s. caroline: when it comes to your role and element solutions, how much are you part of this? >> our te