. >>> commissioner, ben golvin. i am a partner in equity community builders. my partner is also here as is margaret done miller from the john street company, our other partner. ~ we listened really carefully. we looked at the market octavia plan, we listened really carefully to the advocacy from the hayes valley neighborhood association and other folks who have said in the transit-rich area that the city is moving towards a place where people are willing to live without cars and we're willing to take that risk that this is a place where that can happen. >> well -- [multiple voices] >> i think the people will have cars. they just won't be able to park it there and there will be more impact on the city. so, we'll just see what happens, but i mean, i'm always in favor of good projects and this does -- this will add more housing even though i would have preferred to see more parking, just being a realist. so, anyway, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> commissioner hillis. >> thanks for this. i'm supportive of the project. i think it's great. i know originally when