is the director of the cyber security research center at ben gurion university l. of it says that this synergistic approach will help israel to defend itself against cyber attacks. we have a list naive about what can be done. because of what. is there or others cyber state activists do and eventually or the cup abilities that state up towards this eventually are leaking to the cyber crime so we have an advantage that we know in advance what is so broken those are going to use it seem to you it's. private sector businesses are also interested in these developments that's why elevates created telecom innovation laboratories a joint venture between ben gurion university and orchard telecom and european companies know that they can benefit from israeli technology. many companies from europe are coming to try to buy good technologies into the security many from startup companies or. several technologies from different sources of the companies and they are using them either to protect their oath to sell it to other companies inside germany and in europe. germany is now adop