so joining me for the next few hours, the former deputy leader of reform uk, ben habib, and also co—founderf novara media, aaron bastani. coming up in my niggle, i thought sir keir starmer was going to smash the gangs. >> to make it work is to smash the gangs that are running the vile trade. >> and instead he's making things more attractive to them. as labour pushed for a change in the tories illegal migration act, which will mean migrant adults can say that they are children and most children migrants end up being allowed to stay. why on earth would sir keir starmer be doing this when he previously had this to say.7 >> the previous government were running an open borders experiment. >> so what is this? surely, prime minister, you are now trying to run your own. so for the great british debate this yean the great british debate this year, i'm asking our labour making the uk more attractive to illegal migrants. you can also cast your vote on our gb news poll. go to gbnews.com/poll. and in our great british debate this houn in our great british debate this hour, i'm asking should the uk join