joining me now, the leader of that rally, ben jealous, president and ceo of the naacp, and msnbc's joythe courtroom today. what was your sense of how the arguments were received by the court? >> i think we can be cautiously optimistic that this will go the right way. we've turned the tide in states across this country. we've seen good decisions in wisconsin and texas and florida. we've seen republican governors in places like michigan veto very similar bills. what you saw with the chief justice of the supreme court of pennsylvania today who's a republican and it's a court that's split 3-3, democrats and republicans, was that he seemed to not be satisfied with the state's arguments and to be somewhat hostile in his questioning of the state. and he has broken with his party before. and so i think there's reason to be cautiously hopeful that he might do it in this case. >> it was a rather -- just that point we just heard was a rather tortured point that he made about, yes, you know the right to vote is a fundamental right but things surrounding that are not fundamental rights. >> well, an

we will speak with his sister kimberly davis, ben jealous, and laura moye. as italy upholds the convictions of 23 cia agents for kidnapping an egyptian cleric off the streets of milan, we will look at why the obama administration has refused to prosecute anyone involved in the u.s. government secrets torture and rendition program. we will speak with alfred mccoy here in madison. he is author of "torture and impunity." >> there is an absolute ban on torture for a very good reason. torture taps into the deepest recesses of the human consciousness where creation and destruction exist. with a capacity for cruelty and kindness to exist. it has a powerful, perverse appeal. and once it starts, but the perpetrators and the powerful who order them, let it spread. it spreads out of control. >> all of that and more coming up. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. road in the madison, wisconsin. and this one person has been killed in pakistan as protesters fill the streets across several cities in what is expected to be a

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in this last segment, we're joined by ben jealous head of the naacp.aw folks from the naacp at the republican convention and now here the democratic convention. voter rights has been a clear message. what do you mean? >> this country thinks it should be one person, one vote. we should be allowed to vote free and fair. we see more states pass more laws, push more voters at the ballot box than in the last hundred years. it is not simply a republican thing, because we saw republican governor of michigan veto strict photo ids, we saw bob macdonald of virginia actually expand the ran for -- enfranchisement of the formerly incarcerated people. it is a far right thing. it is having a real a fact on this race and will have an effect in november. >> talk about what is happening around the country. >> ground zero is probably pennsylvania. strict voter id law says anyone can vote and thus to shop with the government issued a deal with a photo on it. it has not been shot down. it was struck down in texas and other states, but still in effect there. with 800,000 vo

keith ben jealous thank you so much for taking the time it's great to have you on you know almost a year ago today troy davis was executed in georgia yes you said if you support the death penalty or not this is a case that people should really think about what do you think about this case and i mean just in light what do we learn from it what we learn from this case is that people who've not committed a crime can be put to death in this country it was a reminder unfortunately there have been cases before troy davis and there will just mathematically be cases after george it was until we get rid of the death coming in this country today was the last day of his life tomorrow would be the one year anniversary when he was put to death he was put to death even though the former warden my very death row said there was too much evidence or sadness there was there was too much doubt to execute even though the former head of george w. bush's f.b.i. said there was too much doubt to execute they still want forward with basically the state's vengeance and the really sad part is that what that means

connecting him to the murder so i guess it's fair to say that this isn't a closed case by any means now ben jealous president and c.e.o. of the c.p. made the most important point of all about the case to me yesterday check it out. still going forward with basically the state's vengeance and the really sad part is that what it means is that no one can really be sure that the actual killer was ever caught. the real killer is still free and someone innocent has been murdered by the state and no matter what opinion you hold about the death penalty it's worth noting that over one hundred and thirty seven people on death row have already been exonerated through d.n.a. evidence that proved their wrongful convictions and taking that statistic into consideration it's likely that many innocent people have already been put to death by the state but if you don't care about sponsoring the death of innocent people perhaps you might care about how it impacts your pocketbook because the death penalty judicial process is absurdly expensive to taxpayers. in california alone taxpayers pay ninety thousand dollars more

well, on monday, naacp president and ceo ben jealous made voting rights the center of his address to the group's annual convention in houston. >> we have a choice to make. we can allow this election to be stolen in advance, as politicians from pennsylvania and recently bragged about money thought no one was listening. talking about his state's voter id law. we can double down on democracy. and overcome the rising tide of voter suppression with a higher daughter of voter registration and mobilization and activation and protection. amy goodman: well, today we're joined by a leader of the civil rights movement who risked his life numerous times marching for the right of all americans to vote: 13-term democratic congressmember john lewis of georgia. he was a leader of the civil rights movement who marched side by side with dr. martin luther king. he served as chair of the student nonviolent coordinating committee, helped organize the freedom rides and spoke at the 1963 march on washington. he has been arrested more than 40 times and has just written a new book called across that vision f

well, this could make ben bernanke jealous. >> really.avid: apple can do more than he can. >> apple saving this world at this point. a jpmorgan chief economist put out a note last night, essentially saying eight million sales of the apple iphone 5 could be sold in the fourth quarter here in the u.s. at $900 each. he gets the $400 figure by assuming that the retail price is 600, chop off $the -- $200 for the imported parts. $3.2 billion is the con contribn to the holiday quarter to the gdp here in the united states. the analyst says this would boost annualized gdp growth by a third of one percentage point, and that would limit the downside risk to their growth productions which remain at 2%. david: well, let's just weigh this out because we've had a couple of qes in the past, and what has happened to our economic growth is it has gone down rather than go up. >> exactly. david: so, in fact, if we could get a boost from apple's iphone of a third of 1%,33 basis points, it's doing better than the fed by definition. >> david, i crunched the num

. >> at least to evelyn, ben didn't seem like the type to get jealous or violent. >> you could never imagine ben hurting angie? >> i could never imagine ben hurting angie. >> the evening ended at 1:00 a.m. angie dropped russell off at his apartment which was walking distance from her own and then took anita home. she thought about spending the night at angie's but thought against it. >> what was the last thing you said to each other that night? >> see you tomorrow at the football game. she doesn't meet me there which was strange. she's a woman of her word. i came home and my roommate said there's something i need to tell you. she said that you might want to sit down. she goes angie was murdered last night and the police are wanting you to call them back. >> what'd you think? >> i didn't want to believe it at first. beyond that i started with the whole woulda coulda shoulda. could i have prevented it? should i have spent the night? would things have been different? >> but she was not the last person to see angie alive. it turns out angie's boyfriend ben was that person. she had stopped

ben jealous. good friend of the program. good to have you back. >> thanks, bill.ood to be here. >> bill: nice to see you. i must say -- i wasn't in tampa but i watched the whole convention. when you look at the crowd of delegates in tampa and you look at the crowd of delegates on the floor here in charlotte, it is a different brand of people, isn't it? >> well, i mean, you just see this country when you see these delegates. we had 48 black delegates in tampa and you could be forgiven if you didn't see them. there were thousands of delegates in each place. so 48 is pretty much an all-time low, maybe ever for the republican party. >> bill: here, you're right. this crowd reflects the diversity of this country. not only huge african-american presence and latinos. >> everybody's here. >> bill: everything. i saw a poll recently where mitt romney polling among the african-american community. is there anything -- any reason why an african-american should imagine voting for mitt romney and paul ryan? >> look, i think there's plenty of reasons for blacks to vote republican.