up, we hear from ben kallo, who prompted that testy response.s is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ >> elon musk says if you cannot stand the heat, get out. our next guest encouraged him to give more updates on production of model three sedans. on how buyoutted that we are now. great years are made out of quarters and great decades are made out of years. everyone's short-term focus has been volatility has a way of shaking people out, even that are strong and want to be there. >> ok. >> anything you can do to help in the near term is helpful. >> i think that if people are concerned about volatility, they should not by our stock. i'm not here to convince you to buy stock. do not buy if volatility is scary. alix: joining us now, ben kallo, it is so good to talk to you. the move in stock last night after hours blew my mind. holding up after hours earnings and then him unwilling to answer questions, stock move lower and he continues. what was your take? ben: first of all, good morning. there is a couple things. his approach, obviously, didn't know go over well -- didn'

and i think we're at that point where ben kallo said today, peak pessimism. it's everything they say about the stock is wrong with it i think we're at peak. >> you think we're at peak pessimism with the stock at $277 >> the beauty of it is we're only at $277 and we're at peak pessimism. have you seen any, any pro-comments or articles on tesla in the last two weeks, three weeks? >> i don't think i'd see them in the places i'm looking. >> but would it change if we had this kind of website that kind of analyze journalists more. it's fair there's been criticism. they've missed delivery numbers. >> totally it is 100% fair. he has missed every production line his margins have been squeezed on the model 3 so we're looking at a bunch of things that are true consumer reports this is not a made up article but his angle is they tested the wrong car. the ones we tested stopped at this amount of distance. so not to get too granular, but this is something they can fix over the air as he said. if they can, the stock should rally. if he can get those margins of the model 3 i