ben lichtenstein is the president of tradersaudio.com. ben, this jobs number today, there have been so many expectations that have bmt in. 270,000 jobs lost, that's the consensus at this point. but what is going to be the number that disappointed the number and what's a number the market can live with? >> well, i think mid 300s would be a major disappointment at this point and i think anything below 250 would be a real crowd pleaser. we're also focused on the rate. if you look at 9.7%, 9.8% possibly. it wasn't very long ago that we were looking at 4.6%. fundamentally, unfortunately, whether it's a v bottom, a w bottom, the market has a lot to prove and a long way to go to get back to sustained acceptable levels at this point. i'd like to see the dow up above 10,000 and see some gains from there. where we're finally seeing positive territory on the year, we saw major hurdles to overcome. the market has been acting much like a sprinter since the beginning of march. stro strong, you know, nice run to the up side. but, you know, sprinters aren