ben mwangachuchu is the mine's owner. you can't expect everything to start functioning perfectly overnight in a country like the democratic republic of congo. but the laws are at least a step in the right direction. >>>> what dodd-frarank the law really didid to me, was to stp armed troopsps to be involved n the mining. they pushed them really on the sisi. we have e heard many multinationa who have e come to our mine, yoyou know, and they visited they l looked at the system.. and they said, now we feel comforortable. does that meanan in congo we dot hahave problems? youou know. that that would be lying. >> it's sunday in rubaya. a day off, and a chance to go to church. the day is sacred for mathis too.o.it's thehe k where the miners can pray and rejoice without fear. doing something to resist violence and giving the democratic republic of the congo a chance, certificication appears s to bt least one effective first step towards justice in the minerals trade. >> and now to our global ideas series, where we meet people comm