to take them to jail. >> and while they had james, they asked him point blank about the murder of ben oxley. >> do i know who killed ben? no did dawn kill ben? no? do i know anything about the murder? no. >> was then involved in the planning -- >> no, i'm looking at you in your eyes. i did not kill him. >> but that was it. lots of denials. no real evidence. 1.5 years had gone by since the murder. it was the summer of 2009. time to work cold case territory. >> you get in there. >> then one afternoon, as detective elges was recovered from idle graveyard shift, itself phone rang. it dawn was oxley. >> she said she can take it anymore. she wanted to talk. >> what are you thinking on the way to see her? >> it was about time. >> the detective drove over to dawn house. she was inebriated. >> i'm hurting. >> but she had quite a story to tell about james, about how he offered to murder ben. >> the night ben died he said now or never. and i said no. i said not today, don't do it, no. i said no, i said no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> hours later, she said, james woke up from a sound sleep and told