another one where he on another halloween picture where ben rosen's daughter dressed up in an elephant costume, comes into the oval office and he lies down on the floor of the office and puts her up in the air. so it's those, like, unique moments that you key in, new over in know they're going to happen. it tells you a lot about his personality, what he is like as a person. and not just the weighy pictures of him in the situation room, or him agonizing over what is happening in syria, those kind of pictures are important and tell you a lot about his presidency but the other ones i mentioned tell you a lot about him as a person. >> host: did the president ever nix a photo you chose? >> guest: didn't really work that way. i think he trusted me if we were going to make public a picture, would pet out an appropriate picture. i think if you look at some of the early pictures we released, where he was dealing with the economic crisis and you would say these are not the pictures you see, his head in his hands. we were in this terrible economic situation, but i was trying be truthful to how he

there's another one where-- a halloween picture where ben rosen's daughter dressed up in an elephant costume and comes into the oval office and he lies down on the floor of the oval office and lifts her up in the air, so those like unique moments you see and you don't know they are about to happen and they happen and i think it tells you a lot about his personality and what he's like a person and not just pictures of him in the situation room or him agonizing over what's happening in syria took those pictures are important and they tell you a lot about his presidency, that the other ones i present-- mention to you a lot about him as a person. host: did the president ever next a photo that you chose? guest: it didn't really work that way, actually. i think he trusted me if we were going to make public a picture that i would put out an appropriate picture. i think if you look at some of the early pictures we released where he was dealing with economic crisis and you could say these are not traditional pictures you see where he has his head in his hands or because we were in this terrib