had with our treasurer, jose cisneross and combined with great financial minds in the city and ben rosenfield and ted eagon and ted is here and he had the very difficult task joining with a whole team going around the entire city as i recall ted because i asked you to report back to us what was the business community saying big and small and he would have this group meeting and this meeting and this group would have so many cautious things about changing the business tax and the chamber weighed in and so many other groups that we were concerned about. industries that are all important to us and we had to weave together a collaborative reform that invited everybody to the table, and said not only set -- said it but demonstrated we didn't want to lose any major industry in the city. the other thing we were informed of and came through in all of the meetings as a result of this was that they told the treasurer and told us you got to make it easy. you got to make it workable for everyone. if you have a complicated tax system even if you claim it will be helpful that's not going to be that helpful