with students there to bring in a number of speakers, one of whom was very popular at the time, ben shapiro, and they put up unbelievable areas, saying that you cannot have the event after 3:00 in the afternoon, that students could not attend, that they charged a fee that was multiple times greater than what they were charging -- i think it was about three times more than they had charged a left-leaning group. so we went to court, they ultimately settled, because the constitution is on our side, which clearly states, if -- you have to have a similar circumstance to provide for free speech. you cannot just say that you are for free speech but then effectively block it by restrictive security barriers and things of that nature. we won. they had to pay for the legal fees. most important, they had to pull back on their research their policy against conservative speakers. that is part of our game plan. not just wait for students to come to us but aggressively seek out students and campuses where they feel like their free speech rights have been infringed. host: we go to scott up first in kansas,

faces of the few people i recognized, carly fiorito whohad run for president a few years ago , ben shapiro because i saw some of his videos and tommy laren who i didn't know that much about but someone said i looked like her once so i recognized her name and it was advertising and call the young women's leadership summit for turning point usa. i had no idea what tva usa was and i had to google who charlie kirk was which is a great story that we love to tell now but something in my me i had to attend this conference. that maybe this was the answer for how isolated and alone i was feeling in my community so i went . i dragged my younger sister with me because i didn't want to go all alone and from the moment of that first conference i fell in love with what this organization is doing every day. finally somebody got it. as a young woman in america i didn't need permission from the government or from my professors or other people in the community to do whatever i wanted to do in life. as an american i have a right to my american dream and nothing hold me back from that as long as i have my own

now, republicans and conservatives like ben shapiro would say, listen, facts don't care about your feelings is true. based on the merits. but, guess what? voters based on how they feel. and until republicans win the people on the ground, they are going to continue to go through this circling squad when it comes to race. republicans always lose the battle when it comes to race because they don't win the battle of ideas. what do you mean by that? if republicans dominate on the ground when it comes to school choice, if they dominate when it comes down to gun issues, education, the economy, then they won't have to worry about the race. look at ron desantis and florida? he has won people on school choice. he has won black voters and latino voters because, guess what? he won the battle of ideas. when they try to attack him on race, it doesn't work. >> dana: that's really interesting perspective. let me also have you all listen to jen psaki. of course, she is the white house press secretary about whether president biden, well they wanted mlb to cancel out of atlanta. watch. >> he was not dictating

about where i want to go, like, in the future as far as my career, i think about people like you or ben shapiro or charlie kirk, and, you know, you guys are the kind of people i look up to. what is one piece of information that you could give for somebody who is kind of trying to go down that career path? >> great question and just totally warms my heart. it is very humbling that you guys think think that of me bec, like i said, as i said, i was in your seat as a college student two years ago as a student having no idea what i was doing to get into this movement and how you get started building a following, having a show or providing these organizations. the best advice i can provide is just get started. honestly, a lot of this stuff you figure out as you go. it's trial and era, and you have to dare to fail a little bit. if you're willing to put your name out there and start experimenting with what your unique brand will look like, i guarantee any single one of you could be sitting here a year from now or two years. you just keep putting yourself out there and most importantly ask for opportuni

. >> mark: yeah, this is -- i think it was ben shapiro coined that phrase my facts don't care about yourca,. >> it's the inverse. correct. >> mark: my feelings don't care about your facts. that's the way it's going on. >> sadly, mark. sadly. and when you -- look, he's pitching the infrastructure deal. only 6% of those moneys go to bridges and roads. everything else is boondoggle and paybacks for his political acquaintances. the problem here is he says we're trying to help you find a job. that's infrastructure. oh my goodness, if we use that mark, maybe we can get facial infrastructure reconstruction surgery, plastic surgery for everyone because we old guys have to compete, too. where do you draw the line? but his emotional pitch is potent. it worked during the campaign and then they hide him away from all questions. and, look, biden has the emotions down, mark. if not the name of the relevant agency today, it should be atf, okay. that's what he was talking about today. but what's a letter or two. listen. >> finally, the bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms, i'm proud to nominate david

i want to go, like in the future, as far as, like, my career, i think about people like you or ben shapiro or charlie kirk and you are the kind of people i look up. to what is one piece of information you could give for somebody who is trying to go down that career path? >> great question, and just like totally warms my heart and is very humbling you'll guys think that of me because like i said, honestly, i was in your seat as a college student, so a few years older than you, but two years ago as a student, having no idea i what doing to get sunrise movement and how you get started building a following or having a show or approaching these considerations. it's trial and error and you have to dare to fail a little bit. but if you're willing to put your name out there start experimenting with what your unique brand welcome look like in the conservative movement, i guarantee you could be sitting here a year or two years from now. all it takes is perseverance and dill januaries and putting yourself out there some ask for opportunities . i actually asked for jobs with some of these organization

about where i want to go in the future as far as like my career, i think about people like you or ben shapiroarlie kirk. you guys are the kind of people i look up to. what is one peace of information you could give for some he is trying to go down that career path? great question totally warms my heart and is very humbling that you guys think that of me. because like i said honestly i was in your seat as a college student. a few years older than you, two years ago as a student having no idea knowing what to do getting in the movement, having a following approach in these organizations. the best advice i can provide to you is just get started. honestly a lot of the stuff you figure out as you go. it's trial and area have to dare to fail a little bit pretty willing to pay her name out there start experiencing with what your unique brand will look like in the conservative movement i guarantee you any single one of you could be sitting here and you're from network two years from now. all it takes is per surveillance diligence and keep putting yourself out there. most important ask for opportuniti

with students there to bring in a number of speakers, one of whom was very popular at the time, ben shapirothey put up unbelievable areas, saying that you cannot have the event after 3:00 in the afternoon, that students could not attend, that they charged a fee that was multiple times greater than what they were charging -- i think it was about three times more than they had charged a left-leaning group. so we went to court, they ultimately settled, because the constitution is on our side, which clearly states, if -- you have to have a similar circumstance to provide for free speech. you cannot just say that you are for free speech but then effectively block it by restrictive security barriers and things of that nature. we won. they had to pay for the legal fees. most important, they had to pull back on their research their policy against conservative speakers. that is part of our game plan. not just wait for students to come to us but aggressively seek out students and campuses where they feel like their free speech rights have been infringed. host: we go to scott up first in kansas, democ

which prevent shielding it prevents universities from limiting students' access to speakers like a ben shapirothe content of their thought. we want students to be exposed to ideas that are controversial and that they may find deeply offensive and we need to teach them how to critically evaluate those ideas, debate them and think for themselves about the validity of these ideas we don't need to protect them or coddle them. ainsley: show both sides and let the student make up their own minds. the student are smart enough to do it. spencer roach, thank you for what you are doing. >> thank you. ainsley: the 7:00 a.m. hour of "fox & friends" start right now. >> calls are growing now for john kerry to step down. >> over reports he discussed covert israeli operations with iran. >> if these alleys are true, they are frankly damning. >> vice president harris makes one of her first diplomat i can forays into the border crisis. >> there is a report in the last couple days that every migrant child is being given a copy of her children's book? >> i have to certainly check on that. it is a good book. >> bro

when you look at what they did to trump -- ben shapiro likes to say facts don't care about your feelingslicans, that the president was a russian spy and we're evil, racist people. it's time for common sense, folks. we've got to get loud. rachel: get loud and maybe do canceling right back at hollywood. so good to talk to you. happy easter. >> happy easter. and shout-out to joe biden what has no idea where the eggs are. [laughter] right. rachel: no easter is complete without a sunday feast. jeff george surran -- chef george surran joins us live. stay with us. ♪ rachel: after church and hunting for eggs, everyone wants to spend time together with family meal. >> here with simple and delicious last minute ideas is chef george duran. chef, tell us what we should be having this morning. >> good morning, guys. happy easter. boy oh, boy do i have a treat for you guys. we're going to start off with one of my favorites which is air fryer donuts. it's such a simple thing to make. if you have butter milk biscuits, you're going to take a bottle, cut out a hole from it and once you get the hole in the

ben shapiro says facts don't care about your feelings. it is true. voters do. people do. what's going to happen. jedediah: yeah. that is one of the many issues facing the country right now. another issue we talk about all the time is the issue of education. we talked about school closures, lack of in-person learning. there's another problem that's taking root in many cities around the country. new york city is one example. we're going to cite that example now. there's a problem in the elite private school system in new york city, some of the schools are dalton and others. recently a parent spoke out. he noticed that there was an obsession with race in brearly. he wrote a letter to fellow parents. this is some of what it says. if the administration was concerned about equity it would be discussing cessation of admissions process for those with deep pockets. it would not insist on indoctrination of students and families to a mindset reminiscent of the chinese cultural revolution. it's about time these parents -- these parents feel like they have no choice. in many cases the

one was popular, ben shapiro, still is today. they put up unbelievable barriers, saying you cannot have the event after 3:00 in the afternoon, students could not advertise the event. they charged a fee multiple times greater than what they were charging -- three times more than they charged a left-leaning group. they ultimately settled. you have to have similar circumstances to provide free speech. you cannot say you are for free speech and block it by restrictive security barriers. we wanted them to pay the legal fees and pullback on restrictive policy against conservative speakers. we will do that everywhere. that is part of our game plan, to aggressively seek out students and campuses where they feel they are free speech rights have been infringed. host: scott is up in kansas, a democratic color. you are on the air with the former governor of wisconsin. >> good morning. i love c-span. good guests that have different points of view. i think free speech is great, but i also look back at former senator patrick monahan who once sa