>> look, i tried to convince ben silbermann to do an interview with us.e will continue to push, ben, if you want to do an interview we would love to talk to you he's a quieter leader, isn't out doing the live events. yesterday we had mark zuckerberg do a live instagram. he's trying to be head's down and build out the business so much of the business is not just about automated advertising for small and medium-sized businesses, but making shopping seamlessly hopefully we'll hear more from him. >> i'm not holding my breath to call himself the doge master or doge father. thank you so much. >>> we will break down what went wrong for shopify this quarter that's up next later, the co-founder of basecamp joins us to explain why his company no longer allows politics talk at work. a debate that has been raging on twitter and comes to "techcheck" in just a few minutes. ok, at at&t everyone gets our best deals on all smartphones. let me break it down. you got your new customers — they get our best deals. you got your existing customers — they also get our best deals