joining me this morning, ben silverman is back. it is always good to talk to you.hank you for joining us. >> thank you, carl, guys, thank you so much. >> you have put together some big tv shows in your career, was this -- did this feel any different? >> well, working with apple was an extraordinary opportunity and they're a company that we like to say makes magic. we were thrilled to be in business with them as they go on fair first effort into episodic content. >> all right, are we at the beginning of a big, new chapter in content? what is your sent having been through the exercise? >> i think across the board, you're seeing more and more companies, silicon valley based companies differentiate their offerings, and they have done a tremendous amount of investment and have been a huge success. and as they're launching their apple music platform, and looking for ways to reach their audience and consumer, and more screens available to communicate through than any other company in the world, i think they are leaning in as well. >> ben, when some people particularly in