joining us is ben silverman."squid game. what an extraordinary success. what do you think makes it so successful globally and be a show to do so well via subtitles? >> it is visually arresting. if you watch the show i'm sure half of the costumes is "squid game" costumes with color and devices and many of you remember "the running man" with arnold schwarzenegger i think playing with the metta world mocking reality shows and what goes on is both brilliant and press cent and able to do more violent and premium on netflix than it would be in another arena. it also feels like something pre the streaming birth and what's going on within streaming that would be a movie and now is a series with so much deep we are the characters. >> to what extent is the content world which you know better than most coming up with shows to work globally and not just a core market even if it is a massive one on the u.s.? >> hollywood dominated the global content machine for years and years and still is the supplier of the world called hol

would shake out leadership wise and when you talk about snap and would evan segel be acquired and ben silvermanld carve out an important space within paypal and dan could continue leading all the fintech efforts. >> look, dan shillman has a remarkable track record here and what is so interesting is one reason we're having this conversation is because we've talked so much about the creator economy. so much about social commerce. pinterest is a company that should be all about social commerce and right now in the early stages of that if partnering with paypal or doing something in that nature if it is not a full-out acquisition would be so powerful for a company that has visual surge and the ability to tag products and so much consumer intent and i think what we've seen is that they're just expanding their purview into so many different areas whether it's bitcoin or something like this in social commerce. >> and partnerships. we see spotify and shopify kind of hooking up with a partnership today where artists can sell their gear through spotify using shopify and, you know, we're always mixing up