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ben smith doingedly defending his decision to go ahead with the story.ere he is with nbc's chuck todd. >> i know this was not your intent. but you just published fake news. >> we published a dossier. >> why is that an unfair description? >> i think people like to throw fake news around with stories they don't like. howie: what do you make of ben smith's argument that elites all knew by the and we are just sharing it with the masses. >> i think what ben smith did was make a business decision. i know ben smith, i like him, he's a good journalist an get a lot of information. buzzfeed has had quite a lot of access to president obama. a bus feed video they did of president obama. howie: when president obama gave his farewell speech there were a bunch of tweets from buzzfeed political staffers saying i can't stop crying. i'm so sad. >> their journalists have done a good job. some topnotch organizations have taken their topnotch reporters. they have broken a lot of news over time. but buzzfeed is not going to get the same access to president trump. buzzfeed is

joining me for a sunday morning interview about this is ben smith, the editor and chief of the website. you made the call when this happened. do you regret it a few days later? do you have regrets about publishing this? >> absolutely not. we're proud we published it. three days later it seems clear it was the right thing to do when we look at how much more we know. i think in three months it will look clearly. >> what is it more know that we know now? >> we know the saga that elected leaders knew of a former british spy creating this document, handing it over to the fbi, john mccain handing it to the fbi of briefings which jake tapper got an amazing scoop on. it's an incredible fight of highest power but away from the eyes of the american people over this document. over the claims in the headline you showed. the claims that cnn and many other outlets reported and repeated. in the first instance, once you have the document -- >> when did you get ahold of it? >> i'm not going to say exactly but weeks. >> you had it before cnn. >> we ran across in the reporting we're staking out places wh

now buzzfeed's editor in chief ben smith defended putting up that unverified document. publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017. obviously raising some major issues here for journalism in the age of trump. joining me to talk a little bit more about this, eric, he is the media critic at the washington post. joins us now, thank you for taking a few minutes. let me start on the basic question. ben smith, buzzfeed, they're using the word dossier, i don't know if that's how you can describe this document. some looks like has been debunked, this is all unsubstantiated, there's opposition researchers involved. is he right though? do you see this as the role of reporting in 2017? >>. >> i do not. i do not. it would be another thing, steve, if this were the considered opinion of u.s. intelligence agencies, but it's not. as you mention, this has it's prove pans in in opposition research and the 2016 campaign. first by republican-based groups and then was subsequently, i believe, financed by some democratic leaning groups. so it has the tinge of, yo

see that. >> you want to see that. >> andy: i really don't. >> andy: joe, youaid you didn't get ben smithe used to be a time when the media were gatekeepers, you don't number a time when media organizations would say they have information but won't tell you. i think what you said is a very fair point, his point is that it used to be the media would not publish anything it couldn't verify was accurate, those days are gone. >> perhaps that's his point, the way he said it is as if we as the media are telling people we have stuff but were not going to tell you. >> i think he was alluding to that cnn thing where he said the wikileaks are out and we should be able to see those. we should be able to see these and not you. it's illegal for you to look at them but we can look at them, he was trying to jump on that bandwagon and give him some credit ability. >> andy: scott, you said all post-feed does is poster kitten and populace. it's a silly argument to say that they don't have a politics unit, a news unit, whatever. they have all of that. you don't have to like them, but they publish stuff they

>> ben smith, the editor-in-chief said this is fake news.ese allegations aren't provable but we are going to run it. that is the legal hook they have. >> you must be proud of the $400 million you dropped into that company in the last two years. >> put the p in peacock. >> my guess is they are going to pull back. i think they were struggling financially. that is going to be the death knell for them. >> dana, i'm going to keep asking for . they never would have done this to obama or hillary. >> they wouldn't have. remember, many reporters have this for many months and they didn't do it either? i think we are painting with a broad brush the media. it was buzzfeed that was the exception. a document like this had been within the wikileaks stuff and podesta email that around, what would we think? >> good points. >> my point journal. >> here's the bad point on this. there's a reason buzzfeed ran that on the reason is the intelligence agencies in fact did included in the briefing for the president obama and the president-elect. >> it was opposition

what else did ben smith have to see about the justification? >> that's right.e of the biggest media controversies we've seen in a long time. most numeroewsrooms, cnn includ chose not to publish it. only alluded to the claims, did not share all the sordid details. here's what's been said about the reasoning for putting the whole thing on line. do you regret it a few days later, do you have any regrets about publishing the document? >> absolutely not. i feel three days later it seems clear that it was the right thing to do if you look at how much more we know than we knew three days ago. i think in three months it will look even clearer. >> what is it more that we know now that you believe justifies the decision? >> we know the saga that dozens of journalists, elected leaders knew of a former british spy creating this document, handing it over to the fbi, john mccain handing it to the fbi, of briefings which jake tapper and others got as far as the u.s. power but away from the eyes of the american people over this document. and over the claims that as -- in the h

and when i heard-- when i heard you say, mercedes, donald trump doesn't done anything racist and ben smith and buzz feed could say he could be called racist. i heard paul ryan say his behavior in the past was the definition of racist. >> paul ryan is not a part of a news organization. i'm talking plain, simple journalism, this is about reporting the news, an editor. what they consider a news site, saying you guys are-- it's all fair game. you can call him a racistment i just don't-- it just doesn't fit-- >> you wouldn't report on what paul ryan defined as-- >> guys, hold on, juan. i want juan to react. >> juan, it speaks to the-- >> i was just going to say, i mean, paul ryan said that. to me, for donald trump to jump up and scream about the fake news and buzz feed and the rest, you know, his behavior, he's the guy that started the birther movement. remember that? talk about fake news. and everybody reported on it and followed it for months. eric: let' get gina in. >> i would just say, the bottom line is this, every nominee brings their family with them to these confirmation hearings and wh

buzzfeed's editor in chief ben smith was on "meet the press daily." here's how he defended his decision to release those documents. >> i think there was an -- when you would be the gatekeeper for information, you would say to your audience, trust us, we're keeping things from you, we have lots of secrets we're not telling you, but you should trust us. i think you could say that was a good era or say that was a bad era. that is not the present day. when you have an object that is in play, that is having consequences for the way our elected leaders a erers acting to ask the question of why should i suppress that? there are then good reasons. once it emerges as it did last night in the public conversation that there is this secret document floating around full of dark allegations we will not repeat to you, that i feel like in this era you have to show your readers what that is. >> andrew sullivan, what do you make of that defense of putting out this information, even if this gentleman didn't actually believe it was true? >> i think it's pathetic. it's no

the website editor in cheif-- ben smith-- is now defending the decision to release the information. the intel was 35 pages of memos compiled by a former british intelligence operative. the memos were included in intelligence briefings for both president obama and mister trump. this is what smith had to say about the decision on cnn's "reliable sources." : "we thought that it was important, when you have a blanket claim like he was compromised by russian intelligence, to share the details," butt to "i think we are trying to best inform our audience, to be true to our audience, to treat our audience with respect." trt 11 buzzfeed's decision sparked debate in the journalism community about journalistic ethics and responsibility. a number of media outlets received the memos but chose not to publish them because they could not be verified. so far. the f-b-i has not confired many essential details related to the president-elect. skies will be mostly clear with patchy dense valley fog moving into the delta and bay late. monday will become mostly sunny and cool after the morning fog clears.

ben smith called trump a racist. the core thing here is this document which cnn summarized but didn't provide the details. an important distinction with what cnn did and buzzfeed through it out there to get clicks. there is no substantiation for a lot of this wild stuff and that can't be explained away. >> martha: thank you, howie, good to see you. so coming up, we're going to begin a new program called the first 100 days that starts on monday at 7:00 p.m. eastern. so, bill, we're just a week away from -- you know, 100 days of fascinating time that you will be covering his inauguration and we'll be doing a nighttime show at 7:00 p.m., which is going to be very exciting period to cover in history. i think this presidency is unprecedented in so many ways, the campaign as you and i saw it from the front row was unprecedented so we'll take that over the next bridge, which is to cover these first 100 days and it should be fascinating. >> bill: it's only 100 days, right? only 100 days, right? we have an action-packed show

it editor ben smith said the decision to publish the dossier is, and this is from the statement he tweeteds from the statement he tweeted, our presumption is to be transparent in ourjournalism our presumption is to be transparent in our journalism and our presumption is to be transparent in ourjournalism and to share what we have with reasons, we publish the dossier so that americans can make up dossier so that americans can make up their own dossier so that americans can make up theirown minds dossier so that americans can make up their own minds about allegations that donald trump... about the president that have circulated at the highest levels of the us government. he also mentioned the media and went on to say, publishing this document was not an easy oi’ on to say, publishing this document was not an easy or simple call and people of goodwill may disagree with oui’ people of goodwill may disagree with our choice. it is fairto our choice. it is fair to say that donald trump disagrees. it is worth emphasising that the story is not so much about the allegations, the bbc and other organi

this was just ben smith.nger a group of reporters but the resistance. >> if all of these other outlets out there that are media -ish, the difference between the big j journalism and then it will be other people that can do stuff online but then they kind of make it news. there is every action. and that's where cnn comes in. not having said what was in it but talking about this report that's out there and brings just as much attention. what is it that were talking about. it was incredibly frustrating and is run. that debate was never had, not once about the clinton e-mails which were unverified in stolen they publish them and everything else. the debate should've been have about the e-mails. and now that is a standard. it had been provided to the president of the united states this is a fake e-mail. we know that the clinton e-mails were true. we know that they withheld e-mails. i don't think the two things are the same at all. the clinton e-mail server unsecured was a story for someone running for president of

. >> sean: i tweeted ben smith that night. i said then, i called michael cohen. it took two seconds. or texted him. whatever i did. i got a confirmation. i had never been in prague. >> i've had situations where they've done stories on me where they deliberately did not call me because he didn't want to put a quote in there that would be helpful to me to refute the story. i know what they do. i know the games they play. it is refreshing and it is very good for our democracy that we have a president that is trying to get us back to a free press. >> the maca >> sean: michael goodwin of "the new york post," a very good writer, he said thay were hoping and if you look at e breathlessness and hysteria by which cnn was reporting this story, he said that they were hoping for political kill shot against trump. is this indicative of what is going to happen in the next 4-8 years post ? >> i don't think there is a kill shot. he is a great choice but, those were choices in his cabinet that would match any cabinet of some of our really great presidents. i think he is -- he kno

. >> eric: ben smith, the editor-in-chief of buzzfeed literally wrote a note to his memo and staff saying these are unsubstantiated allegations. then he went ahead and publish them anyway. is there a lawsuit coming? >> i don't know. i would have to leave that up to the president-elect to decide. i can tell you my personal experience with ben has not been favorable. there's been a level of dishonesty but the buzzfeed process. they seem to think that they're more important than the facts and the objective standards of journalism. for buzzfeed, there is no lot of that. >> eric: there are $400 million investment. should nbc apologize and clarify the relationship? >> i can't believe that they're not embarrassed by that investment at this time. you and i have traded markets for 30 plus years, i'm hoping fake news has had a low at very high volume, eric, and hopefully we start to see it clear up in the coming months. it is not really fair to the president of the united states and is not fair to the american people. it's going to fake news, let's talk about that paired how do you put that down? h

>> sure, buzzfeed is working and has been working for months according to ben smith to verify the things that were in that document. it's not that by publishing they are saying we accept all of these things as true. what they are saying is that the document has been presented to the president, senior members of the intelligence community, and all the reporting before buzzfeed said there is this document but we are not going to tell you what's in it. but it is really important and in fact it could affect the entire trump administration. isn't that something that people should be able to see? >> tucker: if it's not true, it's not going to affect the trump administration unless the media treats it like it's significant. we hear all kinds of things, i've heard all sorts of things about barack obama's romantic life. i hope they are not true. i would never report on that. isn't it irresponsible to pass on something that you can't verify? i don't know how you don't see that as a journalist. >> "the new york times," "the washington post," some of the leading journalist organizations routinely wr

joining us now is ben smith, editor-in-chief of the buzzfeed news. instead of only presenting known facts, they left it to readers to reckon with a messy reality. i know you have taken a lot of flak for this. let me just ask the obvious question which is, let's say i had an unverified document given to me by one of your enemies claiming that you had committed a crime. let's say that was in the hands of law enforcement but they did not press charges against you. we had no evidence at all but it was true but i did know that releasing it would greatly damage your reputation. should i release it? of course, i would never publish a lot because it would beof unfair. >> you're just asking questions, tucker, i appreciate it. that's a great way to frame it and a great question. i really appreciate you having me on because i don't think we agree on this, watching the show but i want to make my case to the audience. you should not publish that document if you have it, ie thik it was briefed to the president of the united states, if members of the senate were se

he's buzzfeed's ben smith weighing in. >>> welcome to "risk & reward" i'm elizabeth macdonald filling in for deirdre bolton. cnn's jim acosta said sean spicer threatened to toss him from the press conference. >> during the news conference, sean spicer said to me if i were to continue to persist and ask a question i would be thrown out of the news conference. aaron, keep in mind, i've covered four presidential campaigns, i have never had a press secretary threaten to throw me out of a news conference. that is a first. not a good sign of things to come. liz: trump's press secretary sean spicer responding telling fox it is acosta who should apologize. >> he told me that he thought he had a right to ask a question, even though cnn had been granted a question to other correspondents. i inform him that i thought no one should be treated that way and treated that disrespectfully. and if he did it again in the future, i would have him removed. if someone did that to president obama or president clinton or other human being, i would say the same thing. no one needs to be treated with that leve

ben smith deciding and tweeting out a statement saying that he's on the side of disclosure and showinge reader everything. but agencies, news outlets have had this information. they were trying to search for the truth. but buzzfeed went with it. >> that was, you know, the responsibility is high for organizations to make sure that they vet what they have before taking it to the readers, to the listeners, to the consumers. it's not -- it's not for any one news organization to just sort of throw things out there and hope to god that everybody, you know that is correct the readers can figure it out. as journalists, we have a unique sp responsibility to put things in context and to take things that are vetted and verified before going and saying this particular document or this particular story is true. because if we go into a mode where we're taking items and each news organization has the right to their own editorial processes, let's be clear about that, but what's critical here, especially in an era where we have the whole quote/unquote fake news, and i hate the term, too, like brian doe

when you have so called journalists and ben smith who runs buzzfeed said basically this is the future of journalism in 2017, publishing this document was not easy or simple it. reflects how we see the jobs of reporters in 2017. what jobs is that? you get the garbage, you don't verify it, you don't have both sides, you just stick it out there? >> this is the same website that just a few weeks ago sabotaged the gaines couple, no website that openly declares it's not neutral on key issues. lgbt issues and others. but the rest of the media love them, they love to go on buzzfeed and look at listicals. if this is where journalism is going, it's going to be completely in the toilet. trish: i'll tell you one thing, that's not where journalism is going here. dan, thank you so much for holding people accountable the way you do. hearings for secretary of state nominee rex tillerson, they've been interrupted by protesters several times. he is getting grilled on his ties to russia and russia's president vladimir putin and just exactly what relationship he may have with vladimir putin. listen into

. >> eric: ben smith, the editor-in-chief of buzzfeed literally wrote a note to his memo and staff sayingted allegations. then he went ahead and publish them anyway. is there a lawsuit coming? >> i don't know. i would have to leave that up to the president-elect to decide. i can tell you my personal experience with ben has not been favorable. there's been a level of dishonesty but the buzzfeed process. they seem to think that they're more important than the facts and the objective standards of journalism. for buzzfeed, there is no lot of that. >> eric: there are $400 million investment. should nbc apologize and clarify the relationship? >> i can't believe that they're not embarrassed by that investment at this time. you and i have traded markets for 30 plus years, i'm hoping fake news has had a low at very high volume, eric, and hopefully we start to see it clear up in the coming months. it is not really fair to the president of the united states and is not fair to the american people. it's going to fake news, let's talk about that paired how do you put that down? how does the trumpet min

. >> bret: well, buzzfeed put out a statement, the editor, ben smith, notes, there are serious reasonslegations. we have been chasing specific claims this document for weeks and will continue to become a publishi not an easy or simple call. people of goodwill may disagree with our choice publishing this dossier reflects that we see the job of a partisan 2017. really? >> not how i see the job, bret. let's be clear. this is a perversion of journalism for busby to put out this bubbling stew of unverified allegations, serious doubt about these allegations. the editor also called trump a mendacious racist during the campaign. flies in the face of any notion of fairness or standard of proof. now, cnn, which we saw cnn correspondent jim acosta trying to get a question from trump. in a different category in this respect, it did publish a story, saying it was embarrassing information that may have compromised donald trump in the eyes of russia. but it held back the salacious details, so come i think it there was some restraint there. i still don't think i would've put that on the air, either. >

the editor said this, ben smith. as we noted in our story, there is serious reason to doubt allegations. that was part of what he said. then he went on to say the following. publishing this document was not an easy or simple call and people of goodwill may disagree with our choice but it reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017. address that. >> well, i'm guessing he is probably right in the sense that look, the first thing is we should clarify what this is and what this isn't. what this is the cia and f.b.i. and intelligence community presented to donald trump and president obama and others, by the way, something that has been circulating out there are these rumors cultivated by your political opponents paid for and cultivated by them and the russians have this and know this, this is it out there. it's something that's out there. the details of the allegations are disgusting and some are criminal. others just gross but they are out there, you should know it. buzzfeed takes this and says just thought you ough

ben lomond resident we are giving our fire would next to the house. and we are getting our generator ready and going to get gas for that. >> reporter:bracing for the next storm/santa cruz mtns >> donna smith/ben lomond resident --very worried. it goes into my one part of my driveway. the busy bee a frame. and you see how it distorted here. >> reporter: bracing for the next storm/santa cruz mtns >> dave fisher/felton resident --it depends on how fast they come up. if they come down all at once or will it taste just a little bit?-- will it pace just a little bit. however, we know where we live. we have been here over 20 years. >> flooded a bunch. bracing for the next storm >> reporter:a fresh load of sand and plenty of takers here at the ben lomond based emergency crisis assistance center valley churches united , where ted leggett, among others, is stocking up on sand bags and hoping for the best while preparing for the worst. >>sot ted leggett/preparing for big storm yes this is one to be a major storm. one of the big ones. this is a sample of what residents are up against. on wednesday a culvert along unleashed a torrent of rocks and mud that ended up in the parking lot and threatened the

ben ray lujan, the gentleman from missouri, mr. smith, the gentlewoman from connecticut, ms. delauro, the gentlewoman from california, mrs. mimi walter, the gentleman from california, mr. swalwell, the gentleman from michigan, mr. mitchell, the gentleman from michigan, mr. levin, the gentleman from texas, mr. sessions, the gentlewoman from new york, mrs. lowey, the gentleman from north carolina, mr. mchenry, and the members of the wisconsin delegation, mr. sensenbrenner, mr. kind, ms. moore, mr. duffy, mr. pocan, mr. grothman, mr. gallagher. the committee will retire from the chamber to escort the speaker-little bit to the chair -- the speaker-elect to the chair. >> madam clerk, the speaker-elect, paul d. ryan, from the state of wisconsin.

ben ray lujan, the gentleman from missouri, mr. smith, the gentlewoman from connecticut, ms. delauro, the gentlewoman from california, mrs. mimi walter, the gentleman from california, mr. swalwell, the gentleman from michigan, mr. mitchell, the gentleman from michigan, mr. levin, the gentleman from texas, mr. sessions, the gentlewoman from new york, mrs. lowey, the gentleman from north carolina, mr. mchenry, and the members of the wisconsin delegation, mr. sensenbrenner, mr. kind, ms. moore, mr. duffy, mr. pocan, mr. grothman, mr. gallagher. the committee will retire from the chamber to escort the speaker-little bit to the chair -- the speaker-elect to the chair. >> madam clerk, the speaker-elect, paul d. ryan, from the state of wisconsin. ms. pelosi: it is my honor to join speaker ryan in welcoming all of you to the 115th congress. to new members and your families in this special moment, i offer a special greeting and special congratulations. each of us comes here sustained by the love of our own family and the trust of our constituents. i am grateful to my husband, paul, ou

smith takes care of the ball. and they're playing at home. >> the noise at home will help them. if they can get a rush on ben they've got a chance but they don't matchup well. >> christmas day was not kind to the warriors they blue a 14 point fourth quarter lead. take two of the season series between golden state and the mafz. >> the atmosphere of that game is going to be a playoff game. if you win this game what do we get? both teams trying to get better. obviously we want to win every game but the most things we get out of these types of games is to see what type of team we are. find out what we do, and our identity. going forward and keep building. >> at the end of the day just trying to get better. we got a couple days where we can get some really good time on the court with one another and try to get better, but we don't look at it as a rival. they're a great team. they've been the best team in the league for the last couple years, last three years, so we just want to try to get better. >> james said he doesn't look at them as a rival. i don't believe him. tom brady is hosting the patriots leading by on

smith and danny toler. said he is working with top democrats on the senate foreign relations committee and senator ben cardins someone he's looking to cosponsor legislation. after the white house issued a series of sanctions against intelligence agentsls, expelled some and shut down a russian compound on u.s. soil in the wake of those allegations. house and congressional actions are at odds with donald trump who has dismissed the u.s. intelligence community's conclusions. tweeting yesterday about the intelligence briefing. he said the intelligence briefing was delayed until friday. perhaps more time needed to build a case. very strange, he wrote. that we caused some confusion. the associated press reporting s tweetnald trump' caused confusion among defense officials who said there was no delay. steve from pryor, oklahoma. can republicans do business with democrats on capitol hill? caller: good morning. i have not called in several months. too busy to call you that week after the election. your other host, his name is john? host: correct. go ahead with your thought. caller: i want to say a little tidbit. two

handling the ben g -- benghazi attacks and criticized for mishandling hillary clinton's e-mail server, we're talking about michelle bond and assistant secretary for counsel counselor affairs, gentry smith who handles the office of foreign missions embassies here in the u.s. it's very common for officials both political appointsees to submit their resignation after a new president that's required by law but normally what happens is that these officials are asked to stay on until their successor is confirmed an that was true for many of the officials who served under the bush and clinton and obama administrations. it is true and josh has a piece about this this morning in the "washington post" is that there is a lot of anxiety at the state department about the incoming trump administration, there are a lot of foreign service officials who are resigning an don't want to stay in this administration, but in this particular bureau, the bureau that handles the safety of u.s. citizens overseas, u.s. consulates overseas and running and safety of u.s. personnel and facilities abroad this leaves a real gaping hole 150 years of institutional knowledge out the door before rex tillerson even takes o

ben southwood is head of research at the adam smith institute — a free market think tank.e message it is giving is misleading. in their report 0xfam focus on tech billionaires because they make up an increasing number of the top richest people in the world and they have a case study on vietnam. actually both of these are good examples as to how the global economic system is broadly working. tech millionaires make their money out of products that benefit millions of people, like facebook, in the developing world on mobile internet, traditional style mobile phones. secondly, vietnam, vietnam is a good example. since the 1980s vietnam has implemented lots of reforms like china and india, market reforms. the gdp capita has gone up in that 20 to 30 year period. everything isn't solved, but we are clearly going in the right direction. 0xfam is misleading us by presenting a picture where billionaires are taking from the poor rather than that improvement. some of the men on this list list are great for, bill gates and warren buffett. that is another side effect, although i don't t

ben's got the latest. still talking about christmas. such a big time for the retailers. and now we get a sense of who the winners and losers are. good morning. wh smith shares slumped by 20% because of in —— accounting scandal in italy. problems with bt‘s italian business were found to be much worse than first thought, including misreporting profits and borrowing money to pay debts. bt has fired its italian management team, but british boss gavin patterson will face questions over how the problems occurred in the first place. you are right up—to—date. dress code, an interesting issue. having to wear high heels, make—up, shorter skirts or even dying their hair — those are just some examples of what women say they have been asked to do for theirjob. now mps are calling on the government to take action against discriminatory dress codes. let's take a look at some of the stories they were told. one air hostess described feeling humiliated due to company uniform policy, adding that there was one set of clothing rules for men, and a different one for women. another woman working in a jewellery store said wearing high heels caused her serious pain. while a