publishers in the summer of 1976 julie and i had moved to new york from washington that summer and ben stein, our host today, encouraged us to start considering some publishing interests that he had been countered about us, and so we circulated his proposal and we did so at ben's suggestion. we were seeing a lot of ben in those days, both in new york and in washington when he was a young editorial writer. one of the youngest in the history, one of the best. he authored an article that made a big impression on us and i don't know if ben remembers this, but we do. it was an article entitled bunkhouse logic and while i do not remember the particulars of this article, the gist of it went sort of as follows. if you can't achieve or win anything in life unless you are at the table. now, there are other ways of raising the morals of this article. it means, don't step back from challenges and opportunities, or if you do don't bother others talking about it. don't talk about it, and do it of course when it is possible for you to do this. i doubt there are very many people out there with ben stein mat

ben stein suggests it's also a good time of ridding ourselves of bitter ones. >> 'tis the season to be the season to clean out our homes and throw out old unneeded icky stuff. also the season to give gifts, so naturally i have an idea or two. why don't we all clean out our homes inside our hearts and heads of some things that are really heavy and take up a lot of space. resentments and grudges and anger. why don't we throw away our bad feelings of anything that we feel angry about because he or she belittled us, toss away our remembered hurts and aches of people who did not treat us right. they're just people after all, they're made up of all the things ha make people maddening, just the same as you and i are. you'll be amazed how much sunnier and roomier it is in your head and heart if you just get rid of everything that's blocking the light. it isn't even heavy lifting of then comes the best part as gift to everyone in your life, give the gift of forgiveness. it's a great gift. forgive the people that treated you mean on the job, forgive the people who fired you. i got fired from a j

ben stein was a lawyer and an advocate. i have met charlie so many times and people love him. i think he got 80% of the district voteless last year. -- a vote this last year. i think he is very humble. i think he might have been overextended with some of these things. he may have had too many staff members. host: we appreciate your time. that is all we have time for tonight. thanks for your calls. if you missed any coverage of charlie rangel today, go to c- span.org. >> in a few minutes, a hearing on the repealing of the don't ask, don't tell policy. and in a few hours, an extension of the bush era tax cuts. and the center of a house representative charlie rangel rears just before 5:30 a.m. eastern. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike malone testified on capitol hill today. -- mike mullen testified on capitol hill today. >> good morning everybody. of the committee meets this morning to receive testimony on the department comprehensive review of the repeal of don't ask, don't tell. we will hear from secretary gates and chairman of the joint chiefs, admiral m