bender how are you today? >> guest: fine, thank you. >> caller:rt it's been a long morning and i've watched several segments and my comment i'm going to try to keep it short is i think it was getting too wrapped around in american politics all the way from bipartisanship all the way to the conversation about who won the election and at this point i won't even argue that point because i think it's a dead horse and i think it's part of the issue. my issue is democrats andct republicans and libertarians, it doesn't matter, bipartisanship, doesn't matter. we in america nowadays get too wrapped up in personality versus policy. van jones interviewed some people during the presidential lead up to the 2016 election with the family in the midwest who did not particularly like trump that they liked the policies of the day, the economics, their racial things and a farmer who's about to go under. and world trade and van jones, i don't understand how you can do this but it was the policy, the policy and it is a generally c

the two-part question for michael bender, who gave the order?to know who the person is who gave the order to the entire media complex to ignore the will of the people by completely halting and stopping the election results of our president by refusing to report who won the election. it did not come down to one state mica did with bush and gore with florida. because fox news reported arizona way ahead of biden winning arizona. they obviously knew he won arizona when it was showing trump was way ahead at the time. it cannot be about the ballots because of fox arizona head. so, who gave that order? that is what i would like to know. >> there was no order for the media to report this one way or the other. news organizations, fox news to the associated press had put two project winners get it right. the entire reputation on these decisions. how many ballots are left, a lot has been written on this. in the news organizations brought a way to explain their methods and procedures for these calls with. >> call for youal on twitter with the description of

host: our just is michael bender . he is wall street -- our guest is michael bender. he is the author of "frankly, we did win this election: the inside story of how trump lost". welcome to welcome journal. let's start with the title of the book. i wanted to pay -- i wanted to play a short segment. president is at the white house. let's take a listen at that moment. >> this is a fraud on the american public. this is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we didn't win this election. host: michael bender, an iconic moment. why did you choose that moment? >> it underscored how president trump catapulted his own reality. this is the night of november 3. we did not know he had lost. we did not know biden had one --won rita trump ad-libbing very clearly that he --won. trump ad-libbing very clearly. his messaging is trying to impose his own reality on the current situation no matter what the facts are. host: the other thing about that moment is i was wondering if i was up for that. if it like for me people in the room were encou

i'll speak to bender about his reporting in a moment. but first, biden's takedown of trump today comes as a war is being waged between texas lawmakers tonight. >> in texas for example, republican led state legislature wants to allow partisan poll watchers to intimidate voters and impartial poll workers. they want voters to dive further and be able to be in a position where they wonder who is watching them and intimidating them, to wait longer to vote. to drive a hell -- excuse me, a long way to get to vote. they want to make it so hard and inconvenient they hope people don't vote at all. that's what this is about. >> texas governor tonight threatening to arrest the 57 democratic lawmakers who fled the state in an attempt to derail republican attempts to pass a controversial voting rights bill. a short time ago vice president kamala harris stopped by to meet those to get involved and pass federal voting legislation. >> i know what you have done comes with great sacrifice personal and political. and you are doing this in support and in def

bender has been located. michael, as you are saying, the question was about the depth of his sincere embrace of the big lie and how, if it all it has migrated. >> yeah, that's right. what biden is talking about questioning the shamelessness of congressional republicans. this book lays out methodically from start to finish about how shamelessness was the president political superpower here. and how the people around him, their biggest concern was not cast in the white house, but that he was so desperate to hold on to political power that he became violent and reckless and unhinged. the story in here that he wanted to shoot americans who were protesting put lease brutality. his own secretary of state, mike pompeo, thought trump might lean into a war in those final months in order to hold on to political power. so when trump is talking about, when he claims that voting rights distrust effectively a loaded term as a way to encourage fraud in the elections, a sizeable portion of the base, the republican base belie

and michael c bender on is booked, frankly, we did win this election. then, he was on the frontlines during the attack on the capital, now he is fighting for answers about the insurrection, my exclusive interview with d.c. police officer michael fanone texas democrats do it again. escaping austin to stop new voter restriction laws, again. one of those democrats joins me live. and two decades later, how joe biden became the president who will end america's longest war. when all in, starts right now. good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. i want to begin tonight by showing a moment from this week's cpac conference, that says a lot about where we are as a country, in the ongoing a -- danger of the current conservative movement. now, i will confess, and you might be thinking the same, i was under the impression there was already a cpac this year. apparently, republicans really wanted to have another one. you know, covid happen every once in a cpac mood. then there was one in dallas, featuring the usual subjects, republican's with -- it was all what y

michael bender joins us now. that has come out from your book and it is so nice to have had a chance to read the whole thing. >> thank you so much. >> i want to talk about that, but i want to start with a bigger question, something i asked almost every week during the trump presidency, whether it was after charlottesville or -- hole countries or after that debate. why didn't anybody feel dishonor working for him? why didn't anybody quit? >> hmm, that's a really good question, and something that, you know, the folks around donald trump will have to answer. and i think what i found reporting this book is that they all have a little different answers, and that -- that trump's priority from day one at the white house was always to win reelection. everything was secondary to that. i don't -- i had a hard time finding anyone else around him who would put that as their top priority. he had people who wanted to pass tax bills, people who wanted to get immigration reform done, people who wanted to run, you know, form tech

>> michael bender is a fairly renowned journalist.didn't put this in if he couldn't back it up, and it does fit into a longstanding history of trump mitigating the actions, the words and histories of white nationalists and white supremacists. recall in 2017 when he said that the white supremacists at the charlottesville rally that ended up with a woman dead called some of them, there were problems i'm paraphrasing both sides and some of them were very fine people. it's not a surprise that trump would try to find some way to justify his admiration for a certain policy by saying okay, he did yada yada but some of the things he did were fine. this case it happened to be hitler. >> yeah, and it is jaw-dropping to say the least. tina nguyen, thank you for your reporting and being with us as we look ahead to the news conference as afternoons you can call it that. we're not sure if the former president will take questions in 40 minutes. >>> coming up on "msnbc reports" on the ground with kabul with new nbc news reporting on the withdrawal of

michael bender whose book "frankly we did win this election" comes out tomorrow. thank you so much, michael. >> thank you. >>> breaking news tonight out of texas. where democratic lawmakers have fled the state to stop another run at a voter restriction law. those lawmakers are flying from austin to washington, d.c. we're going to talk to one of them live tonight. we're also going to speak to washington, d.c. police officer michael fanone tonight. officer fanone, you might recall, answered the call on january 6th to defend the capitol from the mob. and in the line of service, he was violently beaten and tased, leaving him seriously injured. he is forced to live with that reality every day, even as republicans try to rewrite the history of the attack. tonight, my exclusive interview with michael fanone about his fight for an investigation into the event that threatened his life and left others dead. don't go anywhere. ♪ ♪ just two pills for all day pain relief. aleve it, and see what's possible. ♪ (vo) the subaru crosstrek. dog tested. dog approved. some days, you j

bender writes of a 2018 conversation in which mr.st world war and its connections with world war ii. bender says trump replied, "well, hitler did a lot of good things," a stunned kelly told the president, "you cannot ever say anything supportive of adolph hitler. you just can't." in another section, bender details president trump's immediate reaction to the video showing george floyd's murder. bender recalls a repulsed trump turning away from the video saying, "this is blanking terrible." he later tweeted his support for the floyd family saying, "justice will be served." the book's author, senior white house reporter for the "wall street journal" michael c. bender joins us now first on "cbs this morning." michael, thank you so much for being with us. we should say first that mr. trump has called the reports in your book totally false. >> uh-huh. >> but you did interview the former president and some 150 former staff members, friends, and advisers. what -- what is your biggest takeaway from the final year in the trump white house? >>

as you point out, michael bender, some were. have that fascinating episode in here where he is with general mark milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, after the death of gedeath ofgloorved. george floyd. he said, we need to crack their heads, shoot them if necessary, and milley says no. >> that's right. this is in june of 2020. if you recall, trump opened up the year in 2020, really primed for re-election. yes, he had just been impeached, but he survived it. his poll numbers were as high as they have ever been. the issue he w wanted to run on was the economy and the chee was red-hot. then all of a sudden the covid happened and george floyd died. he lashed out at the people around him. he tried to back to his law and order image at any cost. and you are right, it fell to general mark milley. the top general in the world's most top military was the only one who could sit in front of trump and tell him no. he points to the portrait of abraham lincoln behind trump, and tells him, that man, sur, had an insurrection, what

bender to you, the president took on the big lie put forward by the former president. you have talked to trump. your depictions of your discussions with trump are worth the price of admission in the book alone. does he truly in his soul believe he won and how has the big lie, let's call it migrated over time? >> it's a good question and one that even people around trump, those closest to him, don't really know the answer to. i think one of the lines that struck me today from biden's speech, when biden wagged his finger at congressional republicans and asked -- >> all right, we have lost michael bender. we are left with a copy of the book. we will get him book. over to you, is anyone in the administration in the circle of reporting and sources that you have, resigned to the fact that accept for kind of long lead-up lawsuit thaus touched on. 2020 may be in danger because of voter restrictions that are moving faster than the democrats? >> well, when i talk to white house sources, they tell me that they are going to just try their best to do all of the different avenues. t

host: our just is michael bender . he is wall street -- our guest is michael bender.he author of "frankly, we did win this election: the inside story of how trump lost". welcome to welcome journal. let's start with the title of the book. i wanted to pay -- i wanted to play a short segment. president is at the white house. let's take a listen at that moment. >> this is a fraud on the american public. this is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we didn't win this election. host: michael bender, an iconic moment. why did you choose that moment? >> it underscored how president trump catapulted his own reality. this is the night of november 3. we did not know he had lost. we did not know biden had one --won rita trump ad-libbing very clearly that he --won. trump ad-libbing very clearly. his messaging is trying to impose his own reality on the current situation no matter what the facts are. host: the other thing about that moment is i was wondering if i was up for that. if it like for me people in the room were encouraging h

the think -- michael bender was on cnn talking about how chairman of the joint steefs of happy and.ten to this and then we'll talk about it. >> milley and attorney general bill barr at the whous. >> i visit with national fda. what do they pasch. . let's go to the white house moment. and whapds? they don't end up most kmefrl moments th -- in the biggest one for years. >> he was water cameraing american citizens. i think it comes across in the book that we felt at the time that trump was usurping his power, was acting with a dictatorial bent, was willing to ruin the careers of pentagon officials, career soldiers just to do his media stunt, the photo op stunt. incidentally for viewers, bender is a "wall street journal" writer, highly respected journalist, so when you read his book, you realize that everything he says, you can trust. it's really, really riveting reading. >> doug, charlie, thank you so much. i appreciate it. >>> democrats split on policing with crime up across the country after a summer of calls to defund the police. now some democrats are saying we might actually need m

i want to read you something that michael bender reports about pompeo. he writes this.ly, the nation's top diplomat worried that foreign adversaries might try to exploit the domestic instability. he conveyed concern to others that trump might be more willing to engage in an international conflict to strengthen his political argument for remaining in office. pompeo organized a daily call with general milley and mark meadows, white house chief of staff. mike pompeo thought trump was going to wag the dog, and so he had a call every day with the chairman of the joint chief and the chief of staff, who when he got off the phone with pompeo was e-mailing doj to ask them to overturn the election. i mean dereliction of duty. what is the right word for that scene? >> well, i think it is absurd, first, that it had to happen, that anybody at the secretary cabinet level position of any administration would think they had to do this. but one thing i want to point out is let's look at the people who are trying to portray themselves as heroes there. attorney general barr for the first

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in michael bender's book, frankly we did win this election, former secretary of state mike pompeo ishe crazies have taken over. bender's take away -- >> is how dangerous the people who are closest to trump thought he was for the country. >> reporter: bender says come pay owe tried to intervene. >> privately he sets up a call with -- daily call with the chief of staff and the nation's top general, in order to try to keep temperatures down. >> reporter: but in public, pompeo weirdly appeased trump. >> there will be a smooth transition to second trump administration. >> reporter: next week's big trump book continues the theme of aides trying to manage trump's emotions. i alone can fix it describes trump boiling over as his opponent joe biden pulls ahead. with an adviser calling gop strategist karl rove and saying, he's in a meltdown. can you call him and tell him all is not lost? >> save our country. >> reporter: months later trump is still in denial about losing and he's denying some accounts from these books. >> he's attacking this book because he knows how many people i talked to him

mike bender, great job as always and excellent hair.- i don't agree with trump very often but the hair -- the hair looks good. you did -- you did well there. >> thank you, jim. >> good luck with the book. >>> coming up. we are now learning that the tide may be shifting within the biden administration about the possible origins of covid-19. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." if you're 55 and up, t- mobile has plans built just for you. switch today and get 2 lines of unlimited and 2 free smartphones. plus you'll now get netflix on us. all this for up to 50% off vs. verizon. it's all included. 2 lines of unlimited for only $70 bucks. and this rate is fixed. you'll pay exactly $70 bucks total. this month and every month. only at t-mobile. (upbeat music) - [narrator] this is kate. she always wanted her smile to shine. now, she uses a capful of therabreath healthy smile oral rinse to give her the healthy, sparkly smile she always wanted. (crowd cheering) therabreath, it's a better mouthwash. at walmart, target and other fine stores. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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trump himself denied the conversation to michael bender.as not yet responded to requests for comment. paul rycoff, president of righteous media and the host of independent americans podcast. tim and eugene are still with us. there's so much reporting i'm not going to read all of it now. "the atlantic" reported the same thinned of underdoens and reporting and trump has talked about the germans publicly before. what do you make of these revelations in michael bender's new book and the disparaging comments about general kelly in knocking them down? >> well, it's not a glitch. it's not a slip-up. it's a feature. it's a part of a consistent and ongoing strategy to push certain types of messages and those messages right now are continuing to fuel domestic insurgency and extreme all across america even as someone in the spokesperson's office tries to walk it back, if you're a member of qanon, if you're a member of a group operating in america this is another signal you have the support of the former president of the united states who is continuing

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bender. of a new book, "frankly, we did win this election: the inside story of how trump lost." michael, thank you for joining us. the president seems extraordinarily upset -- the former president i should say -- that he participated in interviews with any of you at all, but walk us through what you reported about mike pension and some hiring decisions and how the relationship between twhoes men basically fell apart in the final days. >> yeah. thanks for having me on, kasie. i've always admired how hard you work and the results you produced, and being back on this morning is a reminder of the consummate professional you are. >> yes, we promised people yesterday you were going to be here, so thank you for coming back. >> yes, thank you so much. i think one of the things that i'm excited about this book is heading into 2024 here, there are obviously still a lot of questions about what president trump is going to do, but the other republicans around him, including mike pence and another one, ron

again, as you noted, bender reports trump denies this conversation actually took place in the book.at you see here is a president who either doesn't believe in the power of his words -- i doubt that very highly considering his political success. so, is actually trying to use words like this, i think it shows you his mentality, what he traffics in, the kind of information that's coming in to him. and i can't disconnect that trump frame of mind and mentality from what we see from the likes of marjorie taylor greene today, talking about the vaccine and saying we're not going to have your sort of science brown shirts making a nazi reference in her displeasure with the biden administration's effort to get all of america vaccinated. there's a direct line between that trump mentality and somebody who is a trump follower like marjorie taylor greene making those kind of comments. >> there's also a direct line between public comments by trump in which he praises someone like vladimir putin, who we know guilty of horrendous crimes to this day -- he's not hitler, but guilty of horrendous crimes

this is the excerpt from bender's book, frankly, we did win this election.ler did a lot of good things, trump told kelly. when i asked trump about the remark, he claimed the conversation ever happened and he denied praising hitler. others said the remark stunned kelly. joining us now is cnn political director david chalian. wow, question mark? >> yeah, very fine people on both sides. yes, wow, question mark, that donald trump -- i know he denies that this conversation ever took place, but if you take bender's reporting at face value, donald trump doesn't have the political antenna to understand what john kelly, general kelly is trying to explain, you just simply can't say something positive like that about a dolpdolf hitl. words have power, john. this is not disconnected from members of congress using hitler comparisons or nazi comparisons to make political points, which is just absurd. political lesson number one is don't make any comparisons to hitler or to nazism because there are no comparisons. and yet here donald trump is trying to find some positive l

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this reporting has not been confirmed by cnn, but bender is quoting general john kelly. we're talking about a former president that called white supremacists very fine people. what is your reaction to this new reporting? >> well, if, in fact, it's true, there isn't anything that a president of the united states would be more despicable. and, laura, we have to look at the big picture here. the rise of anti-semitism not only in america but all across the world, 1,200 cases last year in the united states. and we know it's happening around the world. and when you have a president of the united states that says that, if he said this, that hitler did some good things, you see, it brings about loose talk. and we have just seen loose talk here out of this person you mentioned in the last segment, comparing people who want to give vaccines and knocking on doors to say would you like a vaccine. did she understand what the brown shirts did? did she understand how they went and grabbed people out because they were jews and sent them ultimately to their death camps? i built a holocau

bender joins us about stunning new details about his final days in office.e a look at this date in history. three american astronauts blasted off aboard an apollo spaceship hours after two soviet cosmonauts were launched aboard a soyuz spacecraft for a mission that included a linkup of them in orbit. >> he's coming in. here we go. >> oh, man. good deal. >> oh, man good deal. age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein. experience our advance standards safety technology on a full line of vehicles. at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. get 1.9% apr financing on the 2021 rx 350. experience amazing. feeling sluggish or weighed down? on the 2021 rx 350. it could be a sign that your digestive system isn't working at it's best taking metamucil everyday can help. metamucil psyllium fiber, gels to trap and remove the waste that weighs you down. it also helps lower cholester

the inside story of how trump lost by author michael bender chronicles the aftermath of trump's electionhis. this is from mike pompeo, former secretary of state. quote, the crazies have taken over, secretary of state mike pompeo warned a colleague. he conveyed concern to others that mr. trump might be more willing to engage in an international conflict to strengthen his political argument for remaining in office. >>> joining us now michael bender, who is also the senior white house reporter for the washington journal. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> i started with the pompeo book. from a 30,000 foot view, i think this is the thrust of what your book gets into, which is that so many people inside the white house and in trump world felt that the president was dangerous. >> yeah. >> felt that he was dangerous, yet didn't take it public. >> that's right. i think we are all pretty familiar with the story of the chaos of trump's four years, whether it's the administration or the president himself. what this book lays out pretty me tho methodically and for the first time how dangerou

after all, had larry gone on drunken benders before. but this time, as days stretched into weeks, it seemed different. extremely odd. ginger miller started working at the law from as a secretary in september, 2001. just about the time larry went missing. >> elisa kept the business going in his absence. but couldn't seem to settle on what the staff should tell people about larry. >> i was told to tell his kids and different people in his family different things. so, i was told that he was golfing or skin. someplace they probably couldn't get a hold of him. >> so it was all obvious bs? >> yeah, and then if it was a client i would have to say that he was working on the deposition. he was with another client. had to fly out. >> larry's kids didn't know what to think. >> i said to my brother, this does it sound right. why do the stories keep changing? >> october arrived. still no larry. thanksgiving. and december, he was always with family on his birthday. but still no sign of larry mcnabney. >> i didn't get a good feeling. and what i worrie

and they must speak truth to power when it's difficult. >> you know, doug, michael bender was on cnnarlier tonight talking about how the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mark milley, and the attorney general, bill barr, didn't intend to wind up in the famous bible photo op from last summer. listen to this, and then we'll talk about it. >> milley and attorney general bill barr ended up at the white house as kind of a lark. milley was in his fatigues. he was going to visit with national guard -- the national guardsmen stationed around the city that night. barr knew they were going to push the perimeter out at some point that day. he'd wanted to see what the progress was. so they decide on, you know, kind of a, heck, let's just go to the white house moment. and what happens? they both end up in one of the most controversial political moments that people are going to be talking about, that historians will be talking about for years. >> doug, you're a historian. give me a quick response to this if you will. >> yeah. what a bizarre scene that was when trump did that, holding the bibl

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obviously, bender had not been silenced given that he was a, able to tell gray barker about it, and b, publishes own book about it in 1962 in which he explains it is not the martians, or the venusian, in actual fact he had been taken for a ride in a flying saucer to the south pole by grizzly monster like aliens. despite the -- let's be generous and say skepticism which will we might greet albert bender's story, the idea that government agents and these sinister men in black are working to hide true information really gains popularity, and it really takes off going through the 1960's and 1970's. and there is an interesting phenomenon going on with just the men in black themselves, in the quite often they are characterized as altogether human agents of the state, but at the same time they are oftentimes given inhuman or unearthly characteristics, characteristics that very often elide the difference between these scientific and supernatural explanations we have been talking about. quite often demonic powers are ascribed to the men in black, walking as if they are not of this earth, not b

michael bender, thank you very much. for having me. ♪ judy: now to the second report in our weeklong series on childcare in the u.s. tonight special correspondent cat wise and producer kate mcmahon report from mississippi, where many working parents have struggled to find affordable, quality childcare long before the pandemic. among those most impacted our single mothers, who have a difficult time accessing government support. our series is called "raising the future, america's childcare dilemma." >> mississippi is one of the poorest states in the country, has the highest rate of child poverty, and like pretty much everywhere, childcare is expensive. >> a lot of times i would create jobs or stay at home because it was easier that way. >> at the williams is a 42-year-old single mother of five. >> gone like the wind! >> she grew upn jackson, mississippi and worked for years in low-paying jobs. like many parents who cannot afford childcare she had to come up with patchwork solutions, which included having her older kids wat

he's calling bender a third rate reporter.ke went down to mar-a-lago and spoke with him for a lengthy period of time. you know well the relationship that former president trump has with some of the people around him. pompeo, pence, et cetera. i wonder what you make of the reporting here, josh. >> mike obviously has a lot of incredible scoops and pieces of reporting in his book. you look at a lot of his reporting that goes back all the way through the campaign and earlier and, you know, some of it i've confirmed since he reported. some of it is things that have been reported in the past like he added more and more details too but comments about mike pompeo at the end, i have not reported that independently but that certainly was a cinema that was coursing throughout the administration, in the final days he was getting rid of people viewed as more establishment figures who, you know, were trying to keep the train on the tracks and looking towards others, the cia, at the state department, at d.o.d., he was installing all sorts of

so this morning i have seen a couple fender benders here and there. but nothing major, that's caused extreme traffic. unlike yesterday at this exact same time. so if you're taking the san mateo bridge and believe it's looking smooth right now, including out on the high rise just 40 minute drive. if you're taking it out to the peninsula highway one. oh, one, the golden gate bridge, as you can see, going smooth right now. it's 19 minutes out to the toll plaza. both directions up and now one. oh, one and marin counties also looking good as well as down the peninsula and to the south bay here from san jose out to menlo park. you can expect a drive time of 30 minutes. if you're taking that this morning, a to a d there's looking good to our dunbarton bridge. also looking good. you see or drive time has increased just a little bit, but no major traffic accidents. back to you. >> thanks a lot of 7.18 and for your money. starbucks is testing selling drinks on social media and hospitals often charge uninsured people. the highest prices. jane king is live in new

according to a new book by michael bender, the book says that donald trump spoke these eternally loath some and fully evil words to white house chief of staff john kylian. hitler did a lot of good things. michael bender interviewed donald trump for his book, and donald trump denied saying that to john kylian. today, that poisonous statement about hitler attributed to donald trump, landed in the world to no surprise whatsoever. none. anyone who has been watching donald trump within -- with an intense disapproval, is unlikely to be slightly surprised that donald trump would think exactly that, about the most evil of the state are in human history. and supporters of trump cannot be surprised that he is reported to have said that, especially donald trump's american nazi supporters. the people who come to his rallies, believing that adolf hitler did a lot of good things, but could have done more. s,donald trump has supporters wo wear t-shirts who say 6 am w. e. meaning, 6 million were not enough. a problem they have within the hitler's murder of 6 million jews, is that hitler did not murder

reports that the car was speeding before that fender bender. light traffic. we're also looking toward 280 at 380. a crash there. should be at the shoulder. we'll track that. registering just below the limit. a yellow stretch. down the peninsula. we'll double check that. nothing in the report so far. over to the peninsula westbound through this kind of a dirty lens. maybe if we had rain it would clear up. kari said we don't. back to you. >> we have to break out the windex. >>> coming up, tropical storm elsa hammering the gulf coast of florida packing with it a powerful punch. what you need to know. >>> plus say it isn't so. could the morning coffee be in jeopardy? i don't drink coffee. i'm thinking about you. why coffee prices might be going through the roof. >>> we are looking at the bay bridge toll plaza moving as slowly as i am this morning. >>> good wednesday morning. 4:42. we have a cool, rer freshing start for you this morning. low 50s for the north bay. 60 degrees in san jose. we're going to see more of yesterday's temperatures but then big changes ahea

with me now is the man who wrote the book on that very subject, michael bender, "wall street journal"tion: the inside story of how trump lost." friend of the show. finally you're on. i've been jealous watching you everywhere. i'm glad to talk to you. >> looking forward to this, hallie. really glad to be here. >> tgif. election night, the title of this book. some statistics are relevant given right now, the decision to declare victory, spread misinformation was not planned out. this was not like a big strategic plan in the minutes leading up to the speech. you look in the aftermath in arizona that has taken hold of important sections of the party. we're not talking about an historical figure. donald trump is positioning himself to be a force in not just 2022 but 2024, regardless of whether he runs or not. how do you see the thread connecting these things? >> the thread plays out, trump has been promising exactly this, that he would dispute any results not for months or weeks but for years, from 2016 he was telling us the only way he could win was if there was fraud. he detailed years e

this was reported by michael bender, a very reputable journalist, based on information from kelly.the only two in this conversation. maybe not directly from kelly, maybe from a third party to whom john kelly reported this conversation. the trump spokeswoman is flat out denying it. so who's telling the truth? john kelly should confirm or not whether trump said this. >> right. of course trump's spokes people have not earned anyone's credibility, but yes, john kelly knows what happened so he should say what happened and what the context was and whether it was true or not. abby, how do comments like trump's, like greene's, play with gop voters? >> i think the very fact that greene is making the comments that she's making publicly and repeatedly tells you that she believes that this is popular in the republican base. and i think that that's probably right. if you are online and you kind of are in the circles where, you know, conservatives, trump conservatives are talking, they make these comparisons too. so it's not as if this is coming out of left field. this is something that has reso

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michael bender and our panel are back to discuss.o you about this during the break. that gets at the character of trump. you report fascinating details about episodes and incidents in. the character of the man behind all that. what did you learn doing this work? >> i wrote and published 1 100 stories. i set out to write something that was different, a different trump book. we all know the story of the chaotic four years of the trump administration. what shocked me writing this book and reporting this book was not that the chaos of it, but how many people around him viewed trump as danger for the country. and this is an example of it back in 2018. there were a lot of people around trump who were worried that he had long given this sort of wink and nod to neo- naziism and far extremist parts of the party. even in milley is worried in a rub up to january 6th, the people trump is bringing into the administration may have tied to neo- naziism. >> milley, you mentioned, and the question for me is trump ignorant of history or choose his mom

"the wall street journal's" michael bender, friend and great reporter has a new book coming out wheree details an encounter between president trump and vice president mike pence, former, in 2018. pence's political committee hired cory lewandowski he crumbled the article, so disloyal. mr. pence lost it. pence picked up the article and threw it back at trump. he leaned toward the president and pointed a finger a few inches from his chest. we walk you through every detail of this, pence snarled. we did this for you as a favor and this is how you respond? you need to get your facts straight. so, i think this episode is depicted by michael comes as a surprise to all of us who didn't think mike pence ever stood up to donald trump in any form or fashion here and seems a bit of contrast to how he at least publicly spoke out against the president prior to january 6th. >> yeah. two things are revealing from this part of bender's new book and that is that, yes, this relationship between the president and the former president and the former vice president was never as rosy as it seemed. often in

that's according to wall street journal reporter michael benders book.frankly we did win this election. the story was first reported by the guardian. bender interviewed mr trump after he left office and claims the former president denied the comments. you and six state assembly members are being given authority to help clear the state's unemployment backlog, the mercury news reports all 80 state assembly members can hire two staff members to help the e d. d with requests for assistance, the assembly speaker told the paper. the staffers will be paid out of existing operating funds more than one million californians who have filed for unemployment are still waiting for those benefits. governor newsom spoke publicly today for the first time since the date for the recall election was announced. he says he is confident the effort to remove him from as will fall short. i look forward to doing everything in our power. we're going to defeat this effort votes start next month, and we'll continue to focus on that. but i'm not taking my eye off the ball focusing on

i've seen a couple fender benders, but nothing major. that will be impacting your commute yet.ooking smooth as you're approaching the bay bridge from the east bay. no delay as you're about to head to the polls there. you're looking at 9 minutes from the maze to fremont street. as for the richmond, sandra fell bridge. both directions are looking great in the smooth. it's just 7 minutes. heading out to highway one. oh, one in the north bay southbound 8.80, from oakland to the to 38 also looking smooth. just 9 minutes. you see a lot of green there. no major issues are hot spots in the south bay as well. looking good. the 2.80 highway one. oh, one and both directions in the peninsula down to the south bay. i haven't picked up any issues yet. just 27 minutes. if you're heading from san jose to menlo park. this morning. if you're taking interstate 8.80, from san leandro to milpitas 20 minutes and out to sonny bill pete is on the to 37 just 6 minutes. back to you. >> thanks a letter. it is 5.20 and today president biden meet with several federal agencies to try to find a solution to t

all fender benders and construction that happened overnight have cleared out.ll get some spots of construction that's pretty normal. unfortunately at this hour. westbound 80 towards the bay bridge, seven minutes. westbound 92 towards the san mateo bridge, 12 minutes. >>> one in four families is not earning. enough to make it in the bay. those are the findings of a new analysis by united way of california. it says the cost to cover basic necessities for a family of four in the bay area is about $109,000. it includes housing, food, basics. about 608,000 of 3.5 million families in our region don't make that much. this was even before the pandemic. u.s. census bureau official measure of poverty doesn't take into account how costs change. >>> farm living could give south bay seniors a new way to make it in the bay. we're expected to learn more about this proposal later today. officials say it's an initiative and an innovative concept that blends vegetable production with urban development. farm fresh housing has 300 amounts for low-income seniors and veterans with a

we will be joined by michael bender. he is quite street journal, white house reporter.uthor of "frankly, we did win this election: the inside story of how trump lost". we will talk with him, hear from you on the washington journal. >> tonight on q and a. michelle singletary on her book what to do with your money when th