benedict arnold comes. he immediately, she's known as the most beautiful woman in philadelphia torches later discovers the most beautiful woman in north america. later when she goes into exile in london, spoiler alert there, too late -- but she ends up, she's called the most beautiful woman in england. so she is very highly regarded in she doesn't miss a beat as far as going to party with benedict arnold and making sure you don't spend a lot of money on parties and lavished stuff. so arnold is kind of -- t. want to get into this, why arnold would turn traitor? >> well, he didn't fit well in the groups, and even before the war started he was in tools with people in the caribbean to he'd been in the shipping business. and he was serving after the british left as the military commander of philadelphia. and my candidate for the bad guy in this story is the civilian head of government in pennsylvania, a man named joseph rita was exactly the same age. and my judgment, not terribly well supported by the record, bu

that benedict arnold spends a lot of money on parties and lavish stuff. so arnold, if you want to get into a little bit of this is why arnold turned into a traitor. >> he didn't fit well into groups and even before the war started, he had duels with people in the caribbean. he had been in the shipping business and he was serving after the british left as the military commander of philadelphia and the candidates for the bad guy in the story is the civilian government and pencil mania a man named joseph reed who is was exactly the same age. and my judgment, not terribly well supported by the record, but many things i have read give me that is that when arnold in a connecticut man surfaced in pennsylvania and married into the richest and most prominent family in town, or one of them, he saw arnold his arrival for post-war political power. he started a president for watergate. first there was a smear the smear of arnold on charges of wrongdoing of various kinds and this created a congressional committee hearing under a congressman from maryland named papa and

arnolds are staying. benedict reads the note and tells peggy and according to witnesses, you know, the very quick conversation and then suddenly he's out the door. and he runs down to the water side and orders the barge to go toward the british lines down the hudson, you know, not toward west point. they thought it was weird. he promised them all a bunch of rum if they got there fast. they finally get to the british boat called the "vulture" later thomas paine said it was vulture entering another. he gives up. he says, all right, i'm joining the british side. and so are these people on the barge. and they say, no we're not! we're americans! we're not going join the british. they took them prisoner. >> he said take my barge crew as prisoners of war. what a creep. lflt. >> yeah. all right. think about this, this leaves peggy in the house by herself with her son. he has been told that the jig is up. they their plot has failed and she's going to -- she's holding the bag. meanwhile washington is within minutes of getti

they'd done very well on lake champlain and benedict arnold during the spurt of gained control of your action plan. we had done well in boston harbor. washington was holding his own against the british in boston he had then trucked in boston. we're mad as hell of the british were doing. the king was committing one atrocity after another. and people were just be leaving this stuff in the battle of bunker hill for instance. admiral graves burned down charlestown, burned the whole town down to the it was 400 buildings in town older than boston. and the king wanted him to do that in order to. later on in october, they burned down, the same guy burned down from f. mayne. he had about the same number of buildings and 4,000 people it was done almost without warning and you have all these people with other refugees these are the kings people we haven't even declared independence. you have a combination of excess burton's doing well because of all those troops that we potentially had an dillinger -- and anger that we can show this was the answer. sam adams write in december of 1775 writing to j

they thought i was a benedict arnold traitor.ese, but, see, we didn't come in on the same ship, but we're still on the same boat together in terms of our experience. so if you have an idea for the bog or the -- blog or the web to aid in what he's doing, in understanding, okay, then welcome to it. thank you. >> thank you. i have a question about the play. i don't think it's at all airy fairy to do this. i think it's a way to communicate to people who are not in the choir, to people who could care less about it. but might really hear what you've done which is to create the cacophony that we live in. and i think it's going to be brilliant t. but my question, my question is as you go through tons of material, what's the line that you go for when you try to put together the words, and you chose one hine -- line for that last song really, and then all the stuff around it. how do you just even start with the piles of information? is there something that you really, is driving through the story? >> well, i've done this kind of thing once

even benedict arnold would have said i can't do that. >> van percie, sort of an attitude. >> the bigers can support each other and not just -- we'll see this afternoon. they kick off their season 2:5 espn2. >> you'reverton. >> take the afternoon off work, america. >> we always do. roger, thank you so much. >> kurt andersen, thank you, as well. >> when we come back, the republicans are -- well, they're in trouble. we'll be talking about skinny dipping in the sea of galilee. >> that's the good news. that's next on "morning joe." oa! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. ♪ ha ha! marie callender's gives you a way to make any day a special occasion. new mini cream pies for one. real whip cream and a cookie-crumb crust. marie callender's. it's time to savor. ♪ >>> good morning. it's 8:00 on the east coast, 5:00 a.m. on the west coast. >> what time is it in the sea of galilee? >> what do you think it is. >> it's naked time as you take a live look at new york

i don't want to call him a benedict arnold.d be awful. >> you're just throwing those words out there. >> i do hear the o.j. song the back stabbers. that's the song keeps playing in the back of my mind. >> one guy who had the courage to tell the truth about joe biden's remarks which were shameful. >> let me say this. mr. crist believes with bob dole and jeb bush. the republican party has gone too much to the right. in the past week you heard both mr. bush and mr. dole talk about how this party's gone too far to the right on immigration, on women's issues. and i think he is trying to -- he's going to speak at this convention because he understands that our party is a party of a big tent, a party that's focused on the middle class. >> there's a truth -- i think there's a nugget of truth with everything everybody's saying. i'm back with carly. i think this is opportunism. this is trying to recreate and rebrand yourself as a new -- this is my brand. i am the former this. now i'm this. everybody pay attention to me for a couple of da