why do we have to be in benghazi? >> i would have to refer you to the arb, sir. >> let me add to it. maybe this will help you think about giving us an answer. in the 13 months prior, there were 230 security incidents in libya. ied, rpg, assassination attempt on the british ambassador. this was the wild west. repeated requests from our security personnel at the facility. we need more help. we need more good guys here. and you guys said nope. in fact, what they had you reduced. probably the most chaotic situation around any of the facilities. don't adhere to the waiver process. why were we there? >> sir, i think the arb points out mistakes were made. >> mr. stark -- >> i think it's very obvious we had a tragedy that occurred, and i'm not djing that a tragedy occurred. >> none of us are denying that. we want answers to it. >> i'm not the witness to tell you what happened. >> you're the the state department representative at the hearing on the the select committee to find out what happened. the most fundamental question i

consulate in benghazi, libya. greg starr will appear before the committee again today. and in testimony last september for the same committee he encouraged law enforcements to give the state department extra funding to increase embassy security. now, also testifying today we expect to hear from steve linick, the inspector general at the state department. as this hearing gets under way and for the rest of the day we're asking should more resources be put togethers diplomatic security. go to facebook.com or tweet us using the hash tag, #c-span chat. this is live coverage on c-span 3. >>> again, we are awaiting the start of this house select committee on benghazi attack hearings to get under way. the committee expected to gavel in in a couple of moments. this a follow-up to the hearing, the first hearing that happened on september 17th. investigating the implementation of the accountability review board's recommendations. the witnesses we expect to hear from today, greg starr who is the assistant secretary of state f

why do we have to be in benghazi? >> i would have to refer you to the arb, sir. >> let me add to it. maybe this will help you think about giving us an answer. in the 13 months prior, there were 230 security incidents in libya. ied, rpg, assassination attempt on the british ambassador. this was the wild west. repeated requests from our security personnel at the facility. we need more help. we need more good guys here. and you guys said nope. in fact, what they had you reduced. probably the most chaotic situation around any of the facilities. don't adhere to the waiver process. why were we there? >> sir, i think the arb points out mistakes were made. >> mr. stark -- >> i think it's very obvious we had a tragedy that occurred, and i'm not djing that a tragedy occurred. >> none of us are denying that. we want answers to it. >> i'm not the witness to tell you what happened. >> you're the the state department representative at the hearing on the the select committee to find out what happened. the most fundamental question i

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>> benghazi, libya. that night, we were having dinner with people we had to meet that night and talked to. we had just about wrapped it up when i got a call from tyrone woods and he said need to get back to the annex as quickly as possible, there is something else going on, there is trouble at the confluence. >> why were you there? >> i was working as chris was, private military contractors with the united states government to protect case officers when they go about their job. >> and where were you that night? >> i was in the cia annex and i was on the reaction force in the development count and standing by waiting for him to come back. basically you are on edge but it was another normal day and making sure our people are supported. >> what was the cia and next? >> a facility that is used to do clandestine operations. >> host: how far was that from where the ambassador was? >> three quarters of a mile, not far away. >> a couple short turn that you are there. >> was it a known facility? >> in east depart

i'm not sure what it means, "benghazi debunked." the city of benghazi has been debunked? the idea that there was a controversy has been debunked? is true.hat this report confirmed that the spirit issues and problems that we previously knew that the administration had it denied initially. i think there is been a lot of spin about the report that is not quite accurate. special committee on benghazi, do you think that will be the final word? guest: i think that maybe the most complete picture. the problem with saying anything is the final word, to me, so many documents are being withheld by the government, so many areas of investigation have been been looked into. the intelligence committee, in veryew, these minis work hard in some cases to protect the interests of their committee, meaning the intelligence committee wants to preferably make the intelligence community look as though they did their job. the house armed services committee, when they issued their findings and reports, they tend to make it look like the military did their job. everybody has got their own interest

>> guest: benghazi, libya. that night i was out having dinner with the people we had to meet that night and talk to. where just about wraps it up when i got a call from tyrone woods on a cell phone and he said we need to get back to the nx as quick as possible. there's something going on. there's trouble at the consulate. >> we remembered the military? spirea bear? >> guest: we were both private military contractors, contracted that the united states government to protect case officers while they go about doing their job. >> host: kris paronto, where we do that night? >> guest: as the cia annex. i was on the quick reaction force in talent and basically i was standing by, waiting for him to come back so we could call it a night. it was basically you are on edge, but it's another normal day for us. operations going on and we're making sure our own people are supported. >> host: what was the cia annex? >> guest: it was basically a facility used to do operations of the day. >> know how far was that from where the a

they were in benghazi. they stood on the roofs.e of them next to the people who were eventually killed by the mortar fire. they volunteered to come testify before the committee to share their stories. to share their perspective, and the committee at one point refuses their request just to cover their expenses. so that they can stay here. that doesn't sound like a committee that really wants to hear from these folks. i think it gives you a window into the approach more broadly of the committee. >> the other revelation keeps mike rogers out of the loop. it doesn't make sense for people on the the outside saying wait a second, why is this happening? >> right there. is a definite sense not everyone on the committee felt that this report was not true or fraudulent or a white wash but that it just didn't go far enough. and that the investigation itself didn't go far enough. the contractors never met with all the panel members at the same time. it was sort of they will come by on this day and you could talk to them if you want to. there w

why were we told the benghazi facility was secured? why were we told it was a strong security presence in benghazi when we now know that was false? and i wasn't sure at the time it was said. we should not move on until there is a complete understanding of why requests for additional security were denied. by whom they were denied and why and ambassador trusted to represent us in a dangerous land was interested to know what security he needed to do his j job. it has been two years. we know the request for additional equipment and personnel were denied that we don't have a full understanding of why those requests were denied and we should not move on until there is a complete understanding. of that or my the official position of our government is so different today than it was in the days and weeks after benghazi. the facts haven't changed. the evidence has not changed but the way our government characterizes benghazi has changed a lot. this hearing will continue our committee's efforts to ensure the recommendations made after the attacks

and how has that change the since benghazi? don't know that that has actually changed since benghazi, sir. i would say it's been an ongoing issue for us. there are some countries that will not allow us to have guard contractors. in some cases we can hire them directly. there are some countries where we have made that determination that because of counterintelligence issues or because we may think that the guard force is -- could be infiltrated and we don't have faith and confidence that we may use third-country contractors. this has been an ongoing issue since 2002. we look at every country very carefully. we make a determination how we can best fulfill the security requirements in that country, whether it's a contract, whether it's a pas, district hire guard force, whether it's a third-country national guard force. we rely in great part on the experience of the rsos in the field and the contracting officers and the general services officers to give us advice here in washington and listen to them. and then make recommendations

now after benghazi additional marines, additional rso's. we have been committed quite frankly since 1985 of increasing the programs. i think the funding that we originally got under the capital cost-sharing program was about a $1.3 billion a year and by 2012, in 2013 is that of the original six varied facilities we were able to build we were building perhaps one or two, perhaps three because of inflation costs. after benghazi congress was again very generous within the department and has authorized almost another $1 million and we are now again on an enhanced building program, building six or seven new facilities a year. i would say while that recommendation remained open technically the department with the help of congress has done an amazing job enhancing the safety and security of our people through the years. i will not say it's perfect. clearly i am here and my job is to implement reforms after benghazi and lessons we have learned. we have made mistakes there but for the vast majority of places i would tell you the recommendations that

why were we told the benghazi facility was secure?e we told there was a strong security presence in benghazi when we now know there was false? why an ambassador trusted to represent us in a dangerous land wasn't trusted to know what security he needed to do his job. lou: joining us now, a member of the benghazi select committee, congressman lynn westmoreland, he serves on the financial services committee and he is the deputy chairman of the national republican congressional committee. congressman, great to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. lou: let's start with congressman gowdy's points about all of the unanswered questions. is it fair to assume that the committee is going to pursue those answers until they're finally realized? >> yeah, i mean i don't think there is any doubt about it. anybody on the committee is committed to finding out the truth. look, the president on september 10 of 2012 made a statement that extra security precautions had been made for september 11th. well we want to know what the extra security precaution

i'm not sure what it means, "benghazi debunked." the city of benghazi has been debunked? the idea that there was a controversy has been debunked? none of that is true. this report confirmed all the security issues and problems that we previously knew, that the administration had denied initially. i think there is been a lot of spin about the report that is not quite accurate. host: the special committee on benghazi, do you think that will be the final word? guest: i think that may be the most complete picture. the problem with saying anything is the final word, to me, so many documents are being withheld by the government, so many areas of investigation have not been been looked into. the intelligence committee, in my view, these committees work very hard in some cases to protect the interests of their committee, meaning the intelligence committee wants to preferably make the intelligence community look as though they did their job. the house armed services committee, when they issue their findings and reports, they tend to make it look like the military did their job. ev

and how has that change the since benghazi? don't know that that has actually changed since benghazi, sir. i would say it's been an ongoing issue for us. there are some countries that will not allow us to have guard contractors. in some cases we can hire them directly. there are some countries where we have made that determination that because of counterintelligence issues or because we may think that the guard force is -- could be infiltrated and we don't have faith and confidence that we may use third-country contractors. this has been an ongoing issue since 2002. we look at every country very carefully. we make a determination how we can best fulfill the security requirements in that country, whether it's a contract, whether it's a pas, district hire guard force, whether it's a third-country national guard force. we rely in great part on the experience of the rsos in the field and the contracting officers and the general services officers to give us advice here in washington and listen to them. and then make recommendations

and he particularly loved the people of benghazi. we may ultimately find out there is no more nefarious explanation other than the fact that our ambassador loved the people of benghazi. so we're going to find out. but i've seen no evidence to suggest there was any nefarious reason for him to be in benghazi other than the fact he loved the country and the people and he hadn't been there for awhile. >> i'm not suggesting nefarious. i'm suspicious because i haven't gotten a lot of information whether this was a covert operation. naturally i'm a little suspicious and he meets with the turkish diplomat and we never know why before he's killed. not suggesting turkey is up to no good but i don't think we have all the information. >> i think at the end of that analysis we're going to find that he and the turkish diplomat were friends. >> just friends. >> i know you and i live in a world where people want to find something that is harder to understand than just a simple fact that he loved the people there, he was friends with the turkish dipl

now, you're the chair of the select committee on benghazi. the hearings have been going on and one as recently as this week. there is a new poll out, congressman, that says that the majority of americans still want to know what happened at benghazi. suggesting that they don't already have the answers. do you think we'll ever get those answers? >> i think we will, and i was actually very encouraged by that poll. the numbers are actually going up. which tells me that my fellow citizens have this innate sense that something wrong happened in benghazi. they just want the politics to kind of stand down and treat it like it is a serious professional investigation. and we have been low key in terms of drama. there has been very little drama with our committee. but there has been a lot of hard work. and when we produce our final product it will be the definitive final accounting. and we'll do our dead level best to answer questions in a fact centric, apolitical way, however long that takes us. >> what is interesting, you say there is no drama. clearl

during the benghazi second public hearing, witnesses testified the u.s.personnel are operating out of warehouses with inadequate security and vetting local guard forces remains a problem. >> of the six vet -- >> a number of them allowed them to work without betting. >> mr. chairman, i do not understand how this can be, after two years, four americans were killed in benghazi. >> reporter: and no one can explain why state department personnel were in libya and why it was okay to bypass physical security standards. >> when you deviate from the standards, there's a waiver process you're supposed to adhere to, was the waiver process adhered to? >> i don't believe so, no. >> reporter: on december 11, 2012, the benghazi -- the security status was deskribled as a security. >> the situations in terms of security was toxic on september 11, 2012. the blue mountain group, the benghazi security team had no license to operate in libya. >> reporter: the republican committee chairman says he wants to hear from key players in the talking points fiasco, including then u.n.

when i got to benghazi, i was going to be there for 60 days. that was my first time into libya. >> i remember walking through our university and there was an army recruiter. he picked me out of a crowd and said hey, what you going to do after college. he showed me a ranger video. that's what i want to do. if a lot of people can't do that, i want to do it. in 2003, i was medically discharged and out of the blue, i got a call from black water saying we're looking for contractors to go to iraq and i said yes. i got the call to go to libya early 2012. >> third grade. that's when we lived across the street from the recruiting station. i kept going over there. i chose the marine corps. i hear they're the toughest guys, so i tried out for the toughest. i got out and got a job in heating and air conditioning. i did that until i got into contracting. the first time that i actually went there to libya, we all went into tripoli. that was my first trip. the second time i went back. the third time and fourth time they were all in benghazi. >> this attack la

chair of the select committee on benghaz benghaz benghazi. thanks for being with us.ng to start with gruber, he is arrogant, he's condesce condescendi condescending, said they wrote the obamacare law in a way so they wouldn't rate it as a tax but the supreme court ultimately rateed it as a tax so we all know he's not a nice guy and we don't know how much. you're a prosecutor. fraud here? perjury here? >> i think what's going to happen if it hasn't already, is incoming chairman will get those documents. if you recall from the hearing, he really didn't want to give us what he considered to be his work product because he wants to minimize his role in the drafting of the aca now. my guess is when you go back to the videos he was very proud of being the architect. he may testify to different things so we will go back and get those documents. what disappointed me the most, judge, was he really believed that lack of transparency, being able to fool the voter is worth while if you really like this piece of legislation. >> i'm going to move on to benghazi. the majority of amer

you had worked with him. >> we had done a trip in tripoli before benghazi.om contracting. >> they come in. they go to building c. you are still waiting for what's happening. >> the aircraft that they had wasn't big enough to take us back. so they were going to take the non-shooting personnel and get them out. >> to the airport. >> we were going to stay there and hold. >> literally? >> literally. >> and i think they had been there about an hour. we were talking about that wondering what's taking so long, why aren't we getting out of here? the super wn was starting to co. be ready for an attack. it was that time that glenn come up on the roof. come over and was talking to rone. rone had introduced me. because i had never worked with him before. he said, he's a sniper. hopefully, we ain't going to need you. i'm glad to have another shooter up here. glen -- bub turned and was walking back toward the front of the building and almost immediately a mortar cam in ae d landed on the wall right there. when i heard it -- i didn't know i heard it. it sounded like when a

what about benghazi? that's right. that's right. well, actually, there wasn't any dishonesty.happens then? >> well, then, the republican party will have to deal with it. but, as we know, couldn't care less about what this report says. >> the moderator will straighten it out. >> that's why the republican leadership has trey gowdy out there looking for something to be able to counter the mike rogers' report. >> they have to reauthorize it for the next congress. and they're absolutely going to stretch this out as long as they can. >> did you ever play basketball, shooting baskets, i'm going home, in the dark, after shooting ten in a row. they're going to stay all night until they get their point. >> it's about keeping it in the headlines. it's not even about finding conspiracy. >> i think the report is full of crap. i'm saying the house intelligence committee is doing a lousy job policing their own. >> nice words, huh, john? crap? lousy? >> a gentleman from the south who apparently thinks he's going to run for president. >> they're going to argue that the house intelligence commi

the committee is holding its second hearing into the september 11, 2011, 12, tax in benghazi.heir dizzily trying to find out what has been done since then two secure diplomatic facilities around the world. newly released reports find security flaws under secretary of state hillary clinton went well beyond benghazi. thank him with should not give up the investigation until many questions are answered. >> what precautions were taken? where? by whom? why were we told the facility was secure, why were we told it was a strong security presence when we now know that was false? why an ambassador trusted to represent us in a dangerous land wasn't trusted to know what security he needed. >> all this coming on heels of the senate report on the cia interrogations report and concerns the release of that report could inspire another attack like the one in benghazi. more on this from washington. >> thank you, andrea. also telling fox news he wants key players and talking points to now testify including investor susan rice who wrongly blamed the attack on a video and a demonstration. former

my next guest was on the ground in benghazi that night.or chris peranto, thank you, sir. >> it's an honor. lou: well, it's an honor -- we talked to your comrade -- >> you talked to the jv squad first. [laughter] lou: we'll give you equal time here tonight. [laughter] let's start with this anniversary. >> sure. lou: everyone marking it as the 13th, particularly in this town, anniversary of september 11th of 2001. it is also a very important anniversary to the nation or -- second anniversary of the attacks in benghazi. >> of course. lou: your thoughts on the standdown order, the 13 hours of that fight. >> sure. lou: your thoughts as you were told that you can't go to the compound -- >> sure. >> lou: -- to save those folks. >> i think any operator or any military person, anybody in special operations would have the same feelings as i did. it was, first of all, it's a bit of anger, it's, you know, it also is a bit of disappointment because you're not being able to help your friends. i said keep in mind -- and i've said this in occasions -- can

new fox news polling on the attack in benghazi, libya, shows americans still want answers about what september night two years ago, and they want the white house staff involved to testify under oath to. 58% of voters want the investigation to continue until somebody is held accountable. another 60% say they think the obama administration tried to cover things up in the aftermath of the attack. meanwhile, benghazi select committee chairman trey gowdy wants former secretary of state hillary clinton to testify once again. mark, you're an attorney. if she gets up there to testify, what's the first thing you'd ask her. >> what the hell happened? >> that's simple. you don't think we know enough, i know you feel that way -- >> here's what i don't understand, whether we've asked all the questions and we just don't have the answer and we'll never get the right answers, or the right questions have not been asked by the right people, and if they just ask what happened next and what happened like i conduct depositions, we'll finally know. >> why do you think we don't know yet? >> i don't know th

>> were those followed with the benghazi facility? >> no, sir, they were not met. >> there is a waiver process followed? >> i don't believe so, no. >> eddy, why are we there with these facts and circumstances? that is a fundmental question that the american people want to know? >> new documents obtained by judicial after they sued under the freedom of information act show that the security situation in benghazi was so messed up, the security force in the consulate was operating in that country without a valid security license. shannon. >> kathryn, thank you very much. >> check this out. talk about a hit and run. an suv crashes in the roof of the house in california. the driver skipped and no where to be found. the bizarre and the search for him next. >> iran accused of trying to smuggle supplies for the nuclear program. and we want to hear from you. do you think that the release of the cia report hurts our national security? our live chat is up and running and click on america's asking and get your thoughts in to the conversation. ♪ c

they assigned the benghazi story or healthcare.gov.nto a story and receive a lot of praise for and when you feel you were making inroads into the secretive information and getting somewhere, the lights would be turned off. i never privy to why that happens. suddenly the appetite is less, you're treated almost as if you are a troublemaker for continuing to follow the story and it is very discouraging especially -- i am not the only reporter this happened to but especially when you have forces that come forward and one to put themselves out on a limb only to go back and say nobody cares about your story after all. lou: we all care a great deal about your story. it is a critically important story. the book is stonewalls, on sale now online, bookstores everywhere. we recommend it to you. cheryl atkinson, great to have you. all the best. up next, attorney general eric holder looks to ban racial profiling despite the fact president bush did just that more than a decade ago. what in the world is going on in this administration? we take it up

... >> reporter: the benghazi whistle blower.thor of "13 hours." >> sorry i couldn't get a visual today. bill: a bit after difficulty on the satellite signal. what did you make of the revelation about hours before the attack when there were big concerns about security and a lack thereof. >> i don't know if it's a revelation. we were telling them in tripoli six months prior to the attack. i think it's just now become because it was televised during this election people are starting to take in the of it. bill: bring americans into the scene there. what was the state of security that day knowing it was september 11. >> it was business as usual. on the state department compound it was very poor. blue mountain group didn't carry weapons and the mortar brigade, the quick reaction force for the state department compound, there was four of them and we didn't know if they could be trusted. the compound was indefensible with the number of people they had on it. there could be 2 security officers to 4. as far as the cia annex, we were readi

. >> on the benghazi report, changing to another report. what were the conclusions? >> the conclusions were some wanted a complete exoneration of all players from the president down to the folks in benghazi, didn't do that. some wanted damnation from the president of the united states who was on the phone to the people in the benghazi compound, and he did not do that. what i tried to do based on my experience as an fbi agent, i have worked cases involving murder and extortion and bank robberies, one thing i know about a high adrenaline, chaotic, that event is sometimes testimony can differ over the same event. it does not meet one person is being dishonest but the recollection is a little different. i took all of that testimony and all the other avenues of source information i could find, overhead video, time stamped cct video, investigative material, eyewitness testimony on the record. both from the contractors being more public to the security contractors were working for the united states government throughout the world and putting together. if i cannot multiple s

a brief follow-up on the benghazi investigation you did. there isn't a point once you discovered that your communications and computer had been monitored and hacked, that you thought seriously about dropping your investigation, and to this day do you ever fear what may happen to you in the future based on uncovering very sensitive information? thanks for taking my call. guest: no. i never thought about changing course. in fact, if anything, it makes me more determined, and i do not worry about my future or fate based on what i am doing. host: do you know if the hacking of your computers and tapping of your phone continues? guest: i have not had analysis done. i have not bothered to do it because what my forensics experts taught me was if people that are the sophisticated who did what they already did, if they want to get into your computer system, there's nothing you can do to get them out. in the end, it is pointless, so i do not waste my time trying to figure all of that out. i just assume, kind of as i always did, that someone could get

bill: the senate committee on benghazi set to hold an open hearing on the terror attack in benghazi.he committee looking into what efforts have been made to secure u.s. diplomatic facility since that attack. we are monitoring that and we'll bring you a live report top of the hour from washington. >> we fight to defend our security. we fight also for an idea. not for a tribe or twisted interpretation of an ancient religion or for a king. but for an idea that all men are ebb do youd by their creator with inalienable rights. how much safer the world would be if all nations believed the same. how much more dangerous it can become when we forget it ourselves even momentarily. our enemy act without conscience. we must not. martha: that was senator john mccain on the floor supporting the intel community's report saying many of the practices went against american ideals and failed to gather reliable intelligence. we are joined by dan coats. he says this was a partisan report and he does not think it should have been released. why are you again this release. >> i'm opposed to this because it

investigating benghazi. detailing what happened on september 11th, 2012, has many who were at that consulate during the attack angry, saying it was flat wrong. >> this is supposed to be a u.s. government special report. to me, it's just a disgrace to the guys that died that night. >> 2, 1. >> plus, it's a new era in space travel. as it blasts off. a former astronaut shares stories from the cosmos. hello, everybody, i'm uma pemmaraju. america's news headquarters live from the capital starts right now. we begin with this fox news alert. an american hostage killed after a risky u.s.-led rescue attempt in yemen. president obama authorizing the mission to save photographer luke somers when it became clear his life was in imminent danger. peter deucy standing by with more on this developing story. >> officials here in washington took al qaeda's threat on thursday that they would kill luke somers in three days if their ransom demands were not met very seriously. so they planned a daring raid with their yemeni count

speaking of benghazi we're going to investigation seven on benghazi.ou think benghazi, despite the fact that even the house intelligence committees, the republicans said there's nothing to it, do you think it's a problem for her? >> absolutely a problem. >> why? she did nothing wrong, everybody says so. >> there was a coverup that was very clearly orchestrated from the highest levels. >> wait a second. there's been six investigations saying there's no coverup. where is the coverup? >> house intelligence committee. >> on this segment what's most frustrating to me 13 straight years we've only been able to find hillary clinton as most admired? >> for what? >> insert any -- >> martha stewart, my mom. >> my mom is pretty awesome. >> obama is at the top of that list for the male and look at his approval numbers across the country so i wonder that's just based on name recognition. oprah was number two. >> many people don't think the word admirer means what it really means. >> you have to look it up. he said he wasn't going anywhere after pleading guilty to a

not one person has been fired, nobody has been held accountable for the death trap called benghazi, notoming to their aid for 9 hours and lying about what happened. that's why trey gowdy and elijah couplheelijah cummings have to e this over. they are too close to the people they are overseeing. bill: mike rogers, republican from michigan, is that committee chair. do you trust mike rogers on this? >> mike rogers is a friend and has been good on national security. when it came to overseeing the characteristics a's involvement, i have always been concerned the people in charge of overseeing are too close to the people they are supposed to be reporting on. i think you see defensive behavior on the part of the house armed services committee trying to protect their link and i'm worried about relationships of how staffers in terms of where they went after they left the committee. that's why we need to start over. look at it jointly where you have a joint committee, a select committee looking at it together. bill: there is one more investigation still open in the house. gowdy is part of it. how

feels good about the free speech but i if he would change his mind on the guy who has the video on benghazi. that's just what it wanted to say. host: susan in fort myers, florida, you will not see it? no, i'm not. i'm really not interested in those type of movies. having said that, i am a skeptic. i believe in free speech. condone the dictatorship in north korea. however, i cannot wonder if someone is trying to stir the pot. not merkel of germany or netanyahu of israel? is thethe money and what reason? is this a diversion for the general public? i'm not sure. host: wisconsin, you are not sure about seeing the movie? caller: no. this is just my point of view -- it seems to me that there is a benefit towards limiting's free speech every time a film is made which could easily be regarded as western propaganda. this does not imply that i am ignorant of propaganda. to think that america does not use propaganda also is completely ignorant. host: ottawa, illinois, craig, you are going to see it? caller: i want to see it because i enjoy seth rogen's adolescent humor very much. i also think it is hy

. >> rose: on the benghazi report, changing to another report. what were the conclusions? well the conclusions were you know i think some wanted complete exoneration of all players from the president all thefighting the fight in bengha, didn't do that. some wanted damnation from the president of the united states who was on the phone to the people in the benghazi. didn't do that. so what i tried to do, charlie, based on my experience as an fbi agent, cases involving murders and bombings and extortions and bank robberies, is one thing i know about a high awe dream lynn chaotic combat event is that sometimes testimony can differ over the same event. doesn't mean one person's being dishonest just means their testimony and recollection is a little different. i took all the testimony and all the other avenues of crab rative sourcesc -- corroborative information i could get. fbi investigative materials, witness testimony on the record. both from the security contractors who are now being more public in writing their book to the security contractors who are still working for the

>> estimates were about $3 million as a budget for the select committee on benghazi. that could go even higher. i do not know the ultimate amount. to me, it seems like what should have been done is a report should have been read and an outline created of what is left to be investigated. we have been asking with a focus of the committee is or what you are looking at or what information you think is missing or not there. we have not received that. congressional baseball game has been scheduled for june 11. as a member of the congressional women's softball team for the press, i have found it fascinating you do not play in the softball team but you are out there with your male colleagues on the baseball field. what is that like for you? >> well, you're half right. men'sted playing on the baseball because the women's softball team did not exist at the time. i played for many years and then the women's soft will team came into exist did -- existence the year i gave birth to my son. i played for two years after on both teams. , itry to go back and forth became problematic. n

there was a gap between principal officers serving in benghazi so you intended to be there for a couple of days during the gap. the state department knew about this despite the fact they implied they almost said they are not even sure they knew he was down there. that was part of communications. could find for sure was that he was there dealing with feed a principal officer at an important post between other principal officers serving their. host: one last phone call. leo from jacksonville, florida. an independent. forer: hello, and thank you taking my call. from the broader perspective of what you have been discussing -- we, the public, we do not need, nor do we want, nor should the media be attempting to shape or direct public opinion. my question that i will to know your thoughts on, what can we do to bolster objectivity and transparency in what gets reported in the media? i believe in being informed and coming to my own conclusions. guest: good for you. i believe in that, too. even when i think i might have facts of a story, able to prove a corporation has provided false information

if we classify the conflict, it's in terms of the conflict between benghazi and forcesme. the military operation is in the side of libyan, in the side of democratic council, and in the side of the national salvation government in tripoli. on the ordinary hand, the armoured groups are occupying since july last year. they are affiliate. air strikes targeted facilities, the main point and a team, a company for generating electricity. >> now, just plain to us what does this actually mean for hafta's military strategy in the bigger picture? havta has been saying for occupying for the strong hold. the strong hold sympathizers or lies. many times they say that the aim of his operation dignity is also to proceed and occupy the capital for tripoli. i have to mention that there's fighting in the west of libya, between the libyan operation, and the brigades which are afillate to general khalifa haftar from the other side. now, renegade khalifa haftar on the ground. the facts on the ground, they are opposite to what he has been saying, because the power on the ground, especially in th