because we remember the benghazi hearings. it wasn't that long ago. you know, for watergate, we have to rely on -- >> people as old as jeffrey. >> people as old as you, jeffrey, to come out and tell us what happened. but with this one, we remember benghazi. and they held the hearings in private. and they had their reasons. they stated them at the time. they thought it would be less of a spectacle. and now three years later, they're storming the skiff, the secure room, with their cell phones which is not allowed to try to create a spectacle. >> last night on ac 360 there were references to one of those who led the protest. he's a congressman from alabama named mo brooks. but i kept hearing mel brooks. because it's so much sound -- i mean, this whole spectacle yesterday seemed like something out of a mel brooks movie. you know, this protest to be allowed inside when many of the members of the protest were actually members of the committee. they could have walked in at any point. you know, it's a sign of desperation. you know, they captured a news cycle.

a year later chris stevens who is there for very long time and had been noble spending a year in benghazi uprising had gone back as ambassador to turkey flew into benghazi and as we know he was murdered. you were played out on the face of five sunday tv shows as a person to explain and that got you in a lot of trouble. there were people, a lot of republicans who felt you had been engaged in a cover-up of what really happened because you had said at the time that this was in the aftermath of a protest at the us embassy in cairo and that this at the time looked like it might have been spontaneous. what is your side of the story? guest: first of all, the most important part of all of this is where you began. we lost more americans in a horrific terrorist attack and chris stevens was not only a colleague but also a friend i valued and we all feel the enormous weight of that lost to this day one of the tragedies, one of the many tragedies about the so-called talking points, and the subsequent controversy i another staff got into was that it obscured the important fact that we had lost american

you mentioned benghazi.efore i get to that, let me just ask you what was it -- and we'll get into the details. what was it like being in that because you were in there, right? >> stunning and discouraging mostly because they did bring their electronics in. >> okay. >> that's something that we take very seriously. >> are you going to do anything about that? >> i don't know. >> okay. >> look, our nation's deepest secrets are contained within the walls of that bunker, and the fact of the matter is the members of the intelligence committee are taught first and foremost you cannot bring your electronics in here because -- and then they demonstrate to you all the ways in which your phone can be turned against you and used as a recording device and used as a device to collect other information. >> so then why the desperate tactics, then? what is -- >> to change the subject. >> okay. >> change the subject. they don't want us talking -- don, they don't want you and i talking about all the things that ambassador taylo

and all of us should be concerned about what happened at benghazi. to ridicule the fact that there were eight hearings on something so alarming, nobody was fishing around looking. by the way, we never tried to impeach the president over anything. all of the things that we disagreed with him on, none of those. even times when he would sign executive orders that circumvented the law. we would challenge him in the courts and we won a number of those court cases. but that doesn't mean it rose to the level of high crimes and miss demeaners. so we never went down that road. but maybe some in a part of a base want to see impeachment no matter what. and some have said that. some in your own party have said they just want to impeach the president because if they don't, he will get re-elected. that's been said by members of your party. that's not why you impeach a president, because you think he's going to get re-elected. the american people make that determination. next year. we've had investigations after investigations, again, mueller alone had 2,800 subpoe

and as joe points out, trey gowdy's committee spent longer investigating benghazi than congress investigated 9/11. he got 100,000 documents -- he didn't get. the obama administration gave him 100,000 documents, 50 witnesses. they complied with, by my count, 102 requests for documents or subpoenas. complied with by the obama

the process they followed during the benghazi hearings. today lindsey graham introduced a resolution accusing the house democra democrats. >> they created a process in the intel committee that's behind closed doors and doesn't provide access to the president's accuser and shuts remembers out for all practical purposes and is unoka worthy substitute for the way that you do it is at its core un-american. >> late today a member of the house intel committee had this response. >> my message is you stay in your lane. it seems as though especially after the stunt yesterday of the violation of security protocol that when the president says jump they ask how high on the way up. that's what they want to talk about. none of them wants to answer the question is it okay what he did? >> republicans back the resolution and he proposed it one day after they brought the inquiry to a halt for five hours. this was them coming down the stairwell. they also objected to the private nature of the proceedings. it's worth noting many of the same house republicans

there's this terrible tragedy in benghazi. she has disastrous testimony upon the hill was not about the victims, it's kind of about her. congress with republican majority in the house goes various iterations of investigations of benghazi. the last investigation which democrats were howling over how many would you have, how many investigations to death in the house? >> guest: there were multiple dueling investigations going on at the same time. trey gowdy was probably the foremost but had it not been for the deceptions by hillary clinton and the state department about benghazi, we would have never discovered this private server in which hundreds of thousands of e-mails and classified documents were stored in her home. >> host: the dastardly turn to me seems the folks that you chronicle in the book is the fbi, predominantly but mr. brennan and folks in the intelligence community switch that and going office. at some point in this process to decide, to quote peter strzok, we have to stop them, or going to stop him, meaning trump.

arabs and europeans were seeking authority to protect civilians who are threatened by qaddafi in benghazi that made airpower, and libyan forces if they were marching on civilian targets. that is exactly what we are asking for. the russians are that the security council and also in moscow. for reasons we can only speculate, and i do in the boo book, the russians did not block that resolution. my speculation is they actually thought we would get so embroiled in this situation would be to our detriment and to their benefit. they were trying to give us enough rope to hang ourselves but they gave it to us. so the disadvantage was to protect benghazi and not face the worst case scenario and it did lead to qaddafi's removal and now the russians in retrospect want to claim that somehow we exceeded that mandate. that's not true. but it did lead them to me when - - to be more cautious subsequently. >> the most controversial part is one year later when chris stevens who i had known for a long time spent a year in benghazi during the uprising and had come back as ambassador he flew in and as we know

as eugene pointed out, that was how benghazi was carried out. is this just a battle for attention spans in the middle of what's been a successful run of days for the democrats? >> that's exactly what it is. republicans here are making the argument this is a process shrouded in secrecy, the american public doesn't have visibility on it. and as you point out, that's true. there are no tv cameras in these hearings. that's a decision the democrats have made. but what we saw today was a stunt. it was reminiscent, many people made the comparison, of the so-called brooks brothers riot in 2000 during the florida recount that brought that to a halt. it was similar stalling tactics here today. this one only lasted five hours, less effective than the one that some would argue helped determine the outcome of the 2000 presidential election. but this is because they're grasping at straws. they're trying to make a stand. they're trying to defend the president. they know the president has been very frustrated according to our reporting the last couple of weeks.

there any indications the e-mails were destroyed because there were sensitive conversations like benghazi or as a candidate for the highest office would be political damaging quick. >> yes. she was not entire lead to's mom - - successful to destroy those 33000 e-mails that by itself was obstruction of justice because congress had asked her to preserve them. and when you defy congress with a subpoena attached, that is obstruction of justice. >> she said they weren't under subpoena she reprimanded the president and that she destroyed it after. >> congress has sent a writing and request to preserve evidence. it was forthcoming at that point but it still obstruction of justice. it turns out some of the e-mails she destroyed turned up elsewhere and some of them contained very sensitive government information. it was not yoga and wedding plans. >> are they all public quick. >> not all of them. her explanation is untrue. and yet in addition to violating the espionage act , she destroyed documents that congress demanded and when you receive a preservation letter you have to abide by it. >>host: i

remember benghazi? most of that took place in private too. why?trey gowdy. >> you don't see the bickering among the members of congress in private interviews. you don't see any of that. the private ones always produce better results. >> where is that now? so what we saw was a stunt, all right? and by the way, that stunt is another reason to keep it private as they investigate. no circus when no cameras. intel chair adam schiff laid out another really good reason to hold the hearings behind closed doors for now. think about this. it's of paramount importance to ensure that witnesses cannot coordinate their testimony with one another to match their description of events or potentially conceal the truth. and once the investigating is done and there's a case to be presented for articles of impeachment -- and there likely will be -- the three house committees leading the probe plan to hold public hearings. all of their witnesses have been behind closed doors. now they will not. plus the committees say they'll release transcripts of their depositions, s

what she said about benghazi is true.ns did act in private as they investigated before they went in public. and that is exactly what democrats are doing. having said that, republicans understand how critical it is for as much as democrats want to increase public support for impeachment, republicans want to decrease it, which is why they're attacking the process, because they think it works. >> can i just add, it is true that taylor's testimony as dramatic and persuasive as the opening statement was, it is mostly hearsay as far as the president is concerned. he didn't interact with the president. he interacted with people who interacted with the president. >> just as the whistle-blower didn't interact from what we know. >> correct. and that's -- hearsay evidence is admitted every day in courtrooms in america. and this isn't a courtroom. but it is true that taylor did not have one-on-one contact with the president, and that's something that you're going hear from republicans, you know, i think it's a legitimate point to rai

. >> it began spontaneously in benghazi. what happened in benghazi was a spontaneous reaction. disservice to herself. jillian: tension between the nba and china could be added tipping point, the latest overnight. ♪ .. fight for first dances fight for blast offs fight for piggyback rides fight for 7 am makeouts. every year, walgreens helps millions of people fight the flu. fight to protect the ones you love. walgreens. be a flu fighter. get your free flu shot today at your neighborhood walgreens. >> tensions between the nba & added tipping point, press conference in china was called off overnight. rob: the league scrambling to rebound after the rockets general manager praised the pro-democracy protests on twitter and somehow that prompted players to apologize to china. jillian: is this a case of putting profits over principles? good to see you. what do you make of the development? press conference, game scheduled up in the air, we don't know. >> the fact that the nba has nothing to do right now. it is morally right, we believe in freedoms and all that and business interests. the

it's what republicans previously during the benghazi committee argued as well. do you find that it is a better process if you don't have the cameras in the room at first? >> well, they'll probably get more information transferred. what the democrats said in the -- chairman schiff said -- was the reason for this process is they don't have a special prosecutor and they can't get a grand jury. so they are kind of trying to replicate a private hearing like a grand jury would do. but that at some point, they are going to have public hearings. i think it's critical that they bring the public into this discussion. and that the administration have the opportunity to question the witnesses at some point. >> i was just going to say, look, you've been -- you went public with your concerns. and that comes with political peril these days. i'm sure you're well aware of that. but give democrats some advice here. what would you tell them? you've got your case. clearly, how they lay out their case is going to matter. not just the facts that they have. the facts are one thing. bu

benghazi had classified and privileged information we didn't want to share with our enemies. this is a different scenario. >> martha: any big headlines from the cooper testimony today before we let you go? >> no big headlines. i will say some of the facts contradicted the witness from yesterday and we'll have to reconcile that. >> martha: in what way? >> some of what she said was involved in making certain decisions were at odds with what we heard from the ambassador yesterday. >> martha: okay. congressman mark meadows. thank you very much. good to see you. >>> up next, president trump said his syria plan is working and that he stands by it. senator john kerry has thoughts on that and he's up next. and then there's performance that just leaves you feeling better as a result. that's the kind lincoln's about. ♪ for your worst sore throat pain try vicks vapocool drops. it's not candy, it's powerful relief. ahhhhhh! vaporize sore throat pain with vicks vapocool drops. [ music: instrumental which ♪ continues throughout spot. ] ♪ ♪ we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing

the process they followed during the benghazi hearings when hillary clinton was the takedown target. today, one of trump's fiercest allies, senate judiciary chair lindsey graham, introduced a resolution co-sponsoring by mitch mcconnell accusing the house democrats, again, those in the other chamber, of conducting a secret and unfair inquiry meant to embarrass this president. >> they've created a process in the intel committee that's behind closed doors, doesn't provide access to the president's accuser, shuts republicans out for all practical purposes, and is an unworthy substitute for the way you need to do it, is at its core un-american. >> late today, one member of the house intel committee had this response. >> my message to senator graham is you stay in your lane. it seems as though especially after the stunt yesterday of the storm-in of the scif and the egregious, the egregious violation of security protocol, that when the president says, jump, they ask, how high on the way up? that's what they want to talk about, process. none of them wants to answer the question, is it okay w

and all of us should be concerned about what happened at benghazi. to ridicule the fact that there were eight hearings on something so alarming, nobody was fishing around looking. by the way, we never tried to impeach the president over anything. all of the things that we disagreed with him on, none of those. even times when he would sign executive orders that circumvented the law. we would challenge him in the courts and we won a number of those court cases. but that doesn't mean it rose to the level of high crimes and miss demeaners. so we never went down that road. but maybe some in a part of a base want to see impeachment no matter what. and some have said that. some in your own party have said they just want to impeach the president because if they don't, he will get re-elected. that's been said by members of your party. that's not why you impeach a president, because you think he's going to get re-elected. the american people make that determination. next year. we've had investigations after investigations, again, mueller alone had 2,800 subpoe

he told "politico" that during the house's investigation of benghazi state department attorneys were,uote, allowed to listen to depositions and review transcripts of interviews. however, under house rules for all depositions adopted in january, quote, witnesses may be accompanied at a deposition by a personal non-governmental counsel to advise them of their rights. observers or counsel for government agencies, may not attend. yesterday pompeo once again hit house investigators for not allowing the agency's attorneys to be present during testimony. >> i frankly wish the state department lawyers were being permitted in the room to hear testimony from state department officials. this is deeply unfair to the officers that serve under me. it's wrong. this has been unfair in the nth degree. we've got officers going up there to testify about important security related matters without a state department lawyer in the room, and then we're not being allowed to know what it says. we're not able to protect the state department. we're not able to protect the united states of america, and adam schi

alice, let me start with you because trey gowdy oversaw the house's multiple benghazi investigations, years and ended in no convictions. in fact, back in 2015, here's gowdy. >> our country is strong enough to handle the truth, and our fellow citizens expect us to pursue the truth wherever the facts take us. so this committee is going to do what we pledged to do and what should have been done frankly a long time ago, which is interview all relevant witnesses, examine all relevant evidence, and access all relevant documents. and we're going to pursue the truth in a manner worthy of the memory of the four people who lost their lives and worthy of the respect of our fellow citizens. >> so, alice, it's hard to hear that and say he's going to be the guy who helps the white house potentially stonewall congress? >> i expect him to come in and do exactly what he talked about there, pursuing the truth, pursuing the letter of the law, and making sure we get to the answer. and, laura, you being an attorney and an expert on law, let me submit to you for my argument here is that i do think that wha

. >> let's push past pompeo because you literally wrote the book on benghazi.i bring that up because of how we're seeing republicans respond to this impeachment inquiry. give us just a bit of a history lesson on how it worked during benghazi. >> yeah, and this is sort of one of the really fascinating bits about watching the evolution of mike pompeo. secretary of state mike pompeo, the behavior he's done over the last six months, would not have stood for congressman mike pompeo, who was one of the architects of the benghazi investigation and grilled hillary clinton and her state department and sort of raked them over the coals for years when he was in congress with precisely the types of demands he's now stonewalling as secretary of state on behalf of the state department. and what's really notable right now, and i think that the bravery of these people cannot be overstated or emphasized enough, is the number of these state department employees who are cooperating with the impeachment inquiry over mike pompeo's objections, over the objections of the state depart

nbc news the trump administration is consulting with former republican congressman trey gowdy of benghazi fame about impeachment-related matters. earlier today senator lindsey graham, chair of the judiciary committee let's not forget, invited trump's personal lawyer rudy giuliani to testify about his role in trying to get ukraine to investigate the bidens. giuliani has signaled that is unlikely. we're also keeping a close eye tonight on developments in the middle east. reuters news agency quoting an aide to the turkish president erdogan reports turkey's military, along with the free syrian army, is about to cross over the turkish/syrian border. this is a big deal. this follows president trump's decision to pull troops out of northern syria after that conversation he had with erdogan. he has been subject to withering criticism ever since. today trump announced the turkish president will be visiting the white house next month. here for our lead-off discussion on a tuesday night, peter baker, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times." we welcome to the broadcast molly o'toole,

you recall what happened when mike pompeo was pushing the benghazi hearings. here is one exchange that took place during a hearing with secretary hillary clinton. >> were you aware that our folks were meeting on the ground in benghazi, hours before the attack. >> i know nothing about this, congressman. >> i think that's deeply disturbing. i think the fact that your team was meeting -- >> i'm sorry. which team is this? >> your team would have been -- we don't know exactly -- >> it would be helpful -- >> it would be one of your state department employees, madam secretary, i don't know which one. perhaps you can enlighten us, and we can get the records that would enable us to do so, to date we have not been able to learn that. >> rick, your response? that was then, this is now? >> it's sadly ironic. i remember being in meetings with the secretary where he was appropriating money to answer the requests of the benghazi committee, the state department supplied tens of thousands of documents to pompeo's committee. and the fact that he's blocking the release of docume

it seems that trey gowdy, and mike pompeo who was also involved in benghazi, they were very righteousir statements when they were the opposition. but today it's as if the constitution and the rule of law don't matter. trey gowdy, you know, i barely know. he led the eighth and most relentless investigation of benghazi, which found, just like the previous investigations, that i did not to persimislead american people. i'm frankly surprised he would want to be a part of this. >> in your book "tough love," you recount how you went on the sunday shows including "meet the press" and, according to the cia-drafted guidance which was the administration's position, because there were covert secrets involved, and your testimony then blew up, but your mother pressed you, your late mother. >> before i went on the show. >> before you went on the shows, and you write about that. you say, she said, why do you have to go on the shows, where is hillary, the secretary of state, of course? she was unrelenting. i smell a rat. can't you get out of it? >> got to love your mother, i miss her mightily. she ha

similar things happened with the benghazi special committee in terms of depositions and hearings that eye. if it were my choice, if i had to do it. i would say let's do this in the open and make everybody aware of what is going on, and let's listen to this in real time, but it is understandable why the process would not unfold that way. for exactly the same reason that republicans were arguing just a short years ago. >> bret: the lynching focus, and all of the talk about the president's tweet and the reaction to it, take a listen. >> donald trump has said about lynching is despicable. >> how dare he. how dare he. and yet again, it is an example of donald trump having no appreciation for the history of this nation. >> even if the president should be impeached, history is going to question whether or not this was just a partisan lynching. >> i think he has spoken for himself. it is right for him to apologize. >> bret: history also has a videotape, susan. >> that's right, and i think both parties should remember, there is a full archive. as soon the comment was made, they replay video, m

used those rules yourself when you were a member of the house of representatives in that little benghazi investigation that you were so obsessed with. and this is now just as hard-hitting a battle as i've ever seen in situations like this. >> well, and, you know, it has been one thing, and i think it's been a frustration for democrats in the house to be trying to get testimony from witnesses who don't want to testify and don't want to be in the middle of this, and are trump loyalists and they're kicking and screaming being dragged in there and they don't want to do it. that may not be the case for all the witnesses in the trump campaign. and pulling rabbits out of their hats trying to block witnesses who are part of an impeachment proceeding now, and those witnesses may not go along with their games to try to keep them out of there, and i don't think this will end well for all of them. the state department implicated itself for the president's call for which he is being impeached, he's not in a strong position. >> that's what the chairmen were saying last night. their letter was to the d

the former south carolina congressman led the benghazi probe and once held this view on stonewalling.thhold information and documents from congress no matter whether you're the party in power or not in power is wrong. respect for the rule of law must mean something irrespective of the advice is tudes of political cycles. >> reporter: sources say the white house wants another voice in the impeachment battle a job left to his personal attorney rudy giuliani until now. >> i went back to read two books about that salem witch trials, they required witnesses to face the width and some witches were acquitted. >> the witches had it better in other words. >> they had more rights. >> reporter: cnn learned as early as last may trump directed rick perry and other top officials to deal with giuliani on ukraine and go around official channels. now, pam, the president was just speaking with reporters during an event here at the white house and during that time he predicted that this fight with democrats over impeachment could go to the supreme court and when one reporter in the room asked if the whi

. >> host: spending a year during this uprising providing the united states he flew into benghazi -- you know he was murdered and you were put out on the face of five tv shows is the person to explain what happened at this time it looked like it might have been spontaneous with your side of the story? >> guest: first of all the most important part of all of this is where you begin. we lost this in a horrific terrorist attack and chris stevens was not only a colleague but a friend. the tragedies of the so-called talking points and into the controversy that he had lost americanwe had lostamericans ane out how and why and what to do about it in the future. my late brother who is a an expt in a force in my life had warned me not to go on a sunday show in the conversation that i described in detail in the book she thought that it was, she just intuitively felt that it was not going to turn out well. i was planning to take my children to beat ohio state football game to see their first band and problem was i was asked to provide the best current information that we had in our classified fo

>> the first thing, brooke, that occurred to me, i remember during the benghazi proceedings, my former boss darrell issa tried to go too close to the deposition he was escorted out because he wasn't a member of the committee. mr. gowdy explained publicly succinctly we have ruled. true whether a democrat or republican. i thought yesterday, those republicans didn't have a problem with that policy when they were running the show. strange now all of a sudden in the middle oflicity stunt they have selective amnesia. >> what jim back then. roll the sound bite. >> the only path to the truth, the only path to the truth is through this committee, the ways and means committee, the house of representatives. so we've got to pass this resolution. it's the only chance we have to give the american people an opportunity to get the truth about a fundamental right that was systemically attacked. >> give the american people the opportunity to hear the truth. so when you hear those same republicans complaining about how the impeachment hearings, at least at this stage, are not public, how do you respond?

if you look back at the benghazi marryitte hearing, they were also behind closed doors.heed stakes could not be higher, do the republicans have a point about, should the depositions be made public? >> theth republicans got nothin. that is why they are engaging in these kinds of distractions. you referred to the gaggle of goofballs yesterday. they can't defend the president, they areey trying to shake down the president ofry another couny for his own political purposes. they can't defend that, so they are doing all of this. so unlike the president who does decision making in a totally chaotic nonconsultant noncollaborative way, you have in the house an ordinarily impeachment inquiry. that is what is going on. they can't handle that. >> but is there an urgency to make this public? we know that for example house investigators are eyeing mid notch. do you want to see these proceedings be made public by then at least? >> i think that is the kind of time fwram we're t looking at. and i think as you characterize it as important as this, i think that the impeachment inquiry shou

congress set up eight committees to investigate benghazi.nd that i deliberately misled the american people. including the one led by trey gowdy who is now going to apparently defend donald trump. what we see now is mike pompeo, one of the most avid prosecutors of the benghazi so-called scandal refusing to cooperate at all with congress. the obama administration provided documents, they provided testimony. secretary clinton sat for 11 hours. i sat for four hours before gowdy and his crew behind closed doors. you know why? because we had nothing to hide. >> the situation in turkey, the president said today that the kurds are fighting for their land and as money wrote in a very powerful article today, they didn't help us in the second world war and they didn't help us with normandy as an example and in addition we have spent tremendous amounts of money on helping the kurds. i'm not sure what the article is -- >> what is he smoking? >> yeah. >> i mean the kurds were the pointing end of the spear who fought isis on our behalf. >> 10,000 casualtie

let's talk about the benghazi investigation run by the house oversight committee under trey gowdy.y had closed-door hearings and they kicked out republicans as well. lindsey graham is saying this is higher stakes and this needs to be public sooner. he thinks this is a derailment of the impeachment process but impeachment is how you define it. democrats say they are moving to a public scenario soon, but the pressure to do that is mounting and republicans want to put pressure on them and they want to make the process look like a circus emma which is what of the reasons they did that yesterday. democrats are trying to make it look serious. judy: two forces heading in each other's direction. we would -- we will see where this ends up. thank you both. ♪ stephanie: good evening from newshour west. i'm stephanie sy with the latest headlines. multiple wildfires are threatening homes in california as high dry winds sweep the state. in northern california wine country, a new wildfire reignited old fears. flames raced across 15 square miles in sonoma county, pushed by winds gusting to 70 mile

>> reporter: house republicans in the past defended the value of closed door hearings like dung benghazi investigation. >> the private ones always produce better results. >> republican peter king tonight calling for his party to sharpen its pushback. >> i think they'd be better advised to say there is nothing there that's at all impeachable, it nothing at all criminal nothing coming close to a constitutional standard of being wrong. >> despite the criticism tonight house democrats are moving forward with more closed door hearings beginning this weekend this weekend while senate republicans today introduced a resolution demanding democrats hold a full house vote on impeachment. while senate republicans today introduced a resolution demanding democrats hold a full house vote on impeachment. lester. >> peter, thank you. >>> the republicans and democrats paused today to honor congressman elijah cummings, the first african-american lawmaker to lie in state at the u.s. capitol. state at the u.s. capitol. the powerful exact who died at age 68 was remember as a master the powerful democrat who d

when he ran the benghazi hearings, many believe, extremely unfairly and in a partisan and biased way, he wanted everything to come out. now he's ducking, hiding. we need representative pompeo back here, the one who said things should be made public when it was a different administration. , not onlytters worse is secretary pompeo ducking, but maybe he is complicit in all of this. his name has surfaced on multiple occasions in the tail of the administration's very questionable dealings with ukraine. for instance, ambassador taylor's written statement states on august 20 ninth, at the suggestion of national security advisor john bolton -- on august 29, at the secretary of national security -- at the suggestion of national security advisor john bolton, the state department stonewalling creates the appearance that the secretary is covering up not only for the president, but for himself. without question, the state described documents by mr. taylor must be provided to congress. the stonewalling must end. it pompeo must explain himself. he has too many questions to answer. any, any regard fo

let's talk about the benghazi investigation run by the house oversight committee under republican trey gowdy. they also had closed-door hearings and they kicked out republicans, as well. kenlindsey graham is saying this higher stakes and i think this needs to go public sooner. he thinks this is the a derailment of the impeachment process, but impeachment is how you define it, and democrats say they are moving to a public kind of scenario soon, but the pressure of course to do that is mounting, and republican wants to put that pressure on them. they also want to make this process look like a circus, which is one of the reasons they did that yesterday. democrats are trying to make it look serious. so watch those two different >> woodruff: two forces heading in each other's direction. we'll see where this all ends up. lisa desjardins, yamiche alor, thk you both. >> thas. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, congress put aside its divisions over impeachment to join in honoring the late representative elijah cummings. the baltimore democrat died last week. today, an honor guard brought his

foremost but had it not been for the deceptions by hillary clinton and the state department about benghazi, we would have never discovered these -- this private server in which hundreds of thousands of emails of classified documents were short at moment. >> the folks that you chronical in the book, the fbi, predominantly by mr. brennan and folks, the intelligence community switched then and go on offense at some point in this process, they decide to quote peter strzok we have to stop him, we are going to stop him, meaning trump. they take extraordinary measures to try to dig up dirt overseas specifically with russia to kind of push it towards the clinton campaign to make the idea of voting for donald trump a repugnant thing for voters, how did that possibly happen? >> well, there were two parts to the plan. part number 1 was to exploit the dossier which had been pinned by christopher steele. the fbi was unable to verify, they tried mightedly but you can't verify something that doesn't exist, simply a lie. but part of the plan was to leak it to the media and they assumed that the media woul

this is fair because this is the -- that they did in gaza benghazi. kind of blame you guys at c-span for not explaining the process to your i do not call them ignorant, but low educated republican voters and your callers, because they are calling in saying that this is not fair when this is the same procedure that was followed during the benghazi hearings. they want to call in saying it was not fair then, here's what the point is. tomp got caught cheating elections, that extorted foreign countries. the sitting president got caught cheating. this is a reason for removal, not only removal from office, but he should be facing criminal prosecution. and, people better wake up, because 15 years from now you will be turning around talking about how did we get this way. here is a place where viewers can go. most everything that has happened on the inquiry so far, everything in front of cameras impeachment.g/ that is the special webpage we have set up. there are briefings you can watch, the hearings in front of the cameras that you can watch. the administratio

in fact here's the chairman of the benghazi committee, republican trey gowdy, saying of course they hadt the investigation behind closed doors. this tape is from 2014 when the republicans were in charge of the house. >> our private hearing was much more constructive than the public hearing. public hearings are a circus. that's why i don't do many of thing, i don't like toe do them. it's a free show. the private interviews are much more constructive. >> we don't expect much in the investigation today, but then again, who knows? you can follow me at twitter. >>> thanks so much, scott. this weekend, it is time to grab the ski gear. mt. rose ski tahoe is open. i know it doesn't feel like ski season yet, but the sierra is still mostly snow free as well, so they fired up the snow-making machines and build up a pretty salad base. mt. rose will be the first to open up so far, and it's the third straight year it's opened in october. mt. rose is really one of the higher elevations. >> but i love going skiing in the 50 and 60 degree temperatures. >> welcome to california, baby. >>> we've been talk

what happened in benghazi was initially a spontaneous reaction. >> what sparked the recent violence washe internet of a very hateful and offensive video. >> he recalls coming under gop fire for giving wrong information about the attack. he says those talking points were provided by the cia and later corrected. rice right in part the first person to tell the public about a highly political tragedy was likely to pay a price. how about something fun? "fox and friends first" got a look at the world of flips and doughnuts and 10,000 pounds of truck that monster jam university and todd pyro took us along for the ride of a lifetime at the drivers training facility. you are here to tell us about it. >> reporter: how many times to get an opportunity to act like a kid and drive something like that? i did, it was awesome. take a look. welcome to monster jam university. we have a special surprise just for you. let's do it. you got to be kidding me. i have my own truck. >> we are going to make some magic. >> let's get you geared up. time for a wardrobe change. >> real professional trained up monster

since he over saw the benghazi investigation that ended in no can convictions.5 here's gowdy. >> a country is strong enough to happenedth handle the truth and our fellow citizens expect tuse pursue the truth wherever the facts take us. so this committee is deeing to do what we pledged to do and what frankly should have been done a long time ago which is interview all relevant witnesses, examine all relevant evidence and access all relevant documents and we're going to pursue the truth in a manner worthy of the memory of the four people who lost their lives and worthy of the respect of our follow citizens. >> so it's hard to hear that and say he's going to be the guy who helps the white house essentially stonewall congress? >> i expect him to come can in and do what he talked about there, pursuing the truth. pursuing the letter of the law and making sure we ghoot answer. and you being an attorney and expert on law, let me submit to you for my argument is i do think what the president has done inappropriate. ill advised. >> the stonewalling or -- which part is ill

in fact, here's the chairman of the benghazi committee, republican trey gowdy, of course they had totart behind closed doors, when republicans were in charge of the house. >> our private hearing was much more constructive. public hearings are a circus. that's why i don't like to do them. i mean, it's a freak show. the private interviews are much more constructive. >> we're not expecting a ton of information to come out today, but we'll be watching it. you can follow me on twitter. >> thanks, scott. >>> well, look, guess who is back? sister mary clarence. hit it, gabrielle ♪ i will follow him ♪ follow him wherever he may go ♪ ♪ there isn't an ocean too deep ♪ ♪ a mountain so high you can keep me away ♪ >> i love that song. look, who could keep whoopi away from being away from "sister act." fans can follow her to london to the stage. she's actually expected to reprice the role of dolores van cartier. she'll be joined by jennifer saunders from the iconic series "absolutely fabulous" is set to play mother superior, who is not underselling the excitement. >> i can't buy tickets because i'