we talked about the benghazi select committee meeting.t is your latest reporting on how this is going to proceed? >> right. well, the very first hearing they're going to have is going to strike a slightly different tone. chairman benie thompson told us last week he wants to hold a hearing where the members of the capitol police will talk about their experience on january 6th, where many officers were injured, beaten by protesters, and are still dealing with the long-term psychological trauma of that day. but moving on from that, he and other top democrats have repeatedly declined to rule out calling people like former president trump or even former leader kevin mccarthy to testify about what happened that day and this could shed some light on exactly what happened. it's worth noting. you mentioned the benghazi committee hearing earlier that former secretary of state hillary clinton did, in fact, come and testify before the benghazi committee in 2015. so there is some sort of precedent for high-profile figures coming to testify before this

i remember benghazi. what is the difference? this is more badder then benghazi was to me. they don't care about the american people. they care about themselves and donald trump in the party for all the republican party need to be voted out. get some young republicans in there who care about the american people. host: live view of the u.s. this friday morning. some of the callers eludes you a cloudy morning, but the temperatures are expected to heat up today, and dry conditions for the holiday weekend. if you're coming to washington, d.c., for the fireworks, the parade, the national archive, a tour of the museums. we will have more calls and comments in just a moment. should republicans serve on this select committee announced yesterday by the speaker of the house nancy pelosi? inside "the washington post" is more on the condo collapsed in florida. a photograph of the president and first lady, makeshift memorial with pictures of loved ones lost as the rescue and recovery efforts continue. the president spending hours meeting with the victims and their family members. here i

the comparison are the benghazi hearings from about a decade ago.he partisan divide, is it a possibility to not have this turn into a circus? it seems like republicans are bent on casting any investigation in a january 6th in a certain direction. >> there is no doubt that republicans are going to try to paint this as a purely partisan effort. so that in and of itself will create some of the circus atmosphere that lauren is reporting the democrats would like to avoid here. but you may recall at the beginning of the benghazi hear progress, kevin mccarthy said the quiet part out loud, he said that contributed to taking downhillk's favorable numbers an that is a clear goal of what they were doing. nancy pelosi is trying to frame everything for democrats right now in terms of getting the heft historical record and getting the accountability pieces in place and ensuring something like this never happens again. so i don't think the goal going in from the democrats is quite the same as what the republicans were doing with benghazi and hillary clinton. but i

for the benghazi committee and the january 6th committee. iden >> who is moving the goalpost now? first of all, with benghazi and others you go back and went back and stayed in the same form of violence, the same kind of organization. what was happening was there was a demand from the republicans we look at every form of violence much of which had nothing to do with what happened with this attack on our democracy. the other thing that's very important. kevin mccarthy put nancy pelosi in an untenable position. this is a poison pill move. if you're trying to put together a bipartisan commission, you have to put people on the commission who are serious about the mission of the commission. when you go and get people who have already discredited the commission, the intent of the commission, the point of the commission and have already preg d -- press prejudiced themselves, had you gone forward with these kinds of people, you'd have nothing but a show of kangaroo court. i think she did the right thing. >> mike, let me ask you a question because i want to give you a chance to response, b

he was extolling how much that benghazi committee ended up doing to hillary clinton.mocrats were able to say, aha, this is all about politics, at the end of the day, what the committee ended up finding with subpoena power ended up proving damaging to democrats in 2016 and may have cost them that election. >> you're right, mark, right? politics will always be involved in something like this on capitol hill. there's a real reason to this committee and investigation. that is the unanswered questions that remain about january 6th. peel way the layers of he says this, she said this, what actually happened. right? when you look at the actions and what triggered the riot on january 6th, it related to the words of the defacto leader and then very official leader of one of the parties involved, right? not both. it was very specifically former president donald trump. that as you know deniable, right? there's no bipartisanship on that front. it's very clear what led up to january 6th. talk about some of the things that this committee needs to get to the bottom of as they unfurl

the parallels to benghazi are again inescapable.getting to the bottom of how they died is important. why is that worthy of so much probing but not an attack on the united states capitol? there were a similar number of deaths. there were a similar number of apparent intelligence failures. there were valid fears of a repeat if we didn't figure out how things broke down and this one actually involves many more americans, hundreds that tried to overturn an election on false pretenses and said outloud they intended to harm then vice president mike pence and others. donna, your thoughts? >> well, i mean this is exactly why republicans and under mccarthy have not a single leg to stand on. you know, they began that benghazi committee determined that they were going to take hillary clinton down in the process. they began it as a partisan exercise. i think democrats actually learned a lot from that from republicans in terms of the way that the speaker has named appointees and the way that this committee will be conducted. i mean we heard benn

i don't think this committee will play the same way as benghazi and other issues. republicans have to defend trump. he is the undercurrent of all this. i don't think it helps them not to be on the committee defending trump. >> they don't have to defend trump, they could defend justice, they could care about security, they could defend the capitol police officers. john, here's the thing. if this is where we are, besides getting important information, what actually comes out of hearings, what could the consequences be? >> well, that's very interesting question to ask. i don't know if we would see, i can't see like criminal referral to the justice department on trump. that's not going to happen. the former president, there's not going to be, he is not going to be charged with a crime, mark meadows not charged with a crime, not going to seek to have a justice department conduct a criminal investigation of the president. that's not going to happen. i do think it is vitally important that what happened inside the west wing that day, inside the former president's inner ci

and every one of us lived through january 6 whereas none of us lived through what happened this benghazi many years ago. so the ability of one of the president's supporters, i think you mention helise stefanik and jim jordan to make things up, saying what did or didn't happen, that he would talk to people who lived through that day. it's a challenging thing, but at the end of the day, it's a really important committee, and it's important it be seen as bipartisan, and not just because nancy pelosi put congresswoman cheney on. maybe this will actually be a thoughtful examination by the republicans joining the democrats about what i think was the most significant threat to our legislature since the civil war. >> we have to learn exactly what happened, but if republicans, congressman, do focus their attention on pushing false narratives about the january 6 insurrection, could this committee end up actually doing more harm than good? >> i don't think so. we've seen this already. we've seen republicans suggest, gosh, it wasn't that bad or these folks look like ordinary tourists. and that proba

a lot of people wrote off the benghazi hearing. but i think you can make a good argument that without the benghazi hearing which of hillary clinton's e-mail server and the entire catastrophe of donald trump's election would never happen. >> you know what i have to say on this holiday friday, michelle? >> what's that? >> what e-mails? >> always good to see you. >> you too. >> have a great holiday weekend. >> we have our shortest break right now, it is 60 seconds. malcolm gladwell is here, stay with us. gladwell is here, stay with us. was missing... ...me. my symptoms were keeping me from being there for her. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira is the #1 prescribed biologic for people with crohn's disease. the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief in as little as 4 weeks. and many achieved remission that can last. humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and ner

>> first of all, the benghazi committee started out as a circus.omeland security committee, he's a no-nonsense guy, he's going to follow the rules. i think there's going to be a lot of truth seeking on the democratic side. they'll let the republicans play their antics, but the reality is the republicans don't really control anything in this process because they gave that up by abandoning the idea of an independent commission. i think democrats are going to put their heads down, follow the facts and not play to the antics that will no doubt be a part of the republican presentation. frankly, i wouldn't be surprised because there's so much vying on the republican side that the worst actors, the loudest voices, the biggest clowns will be part of the republican selections. i think it's going to make democrats and liz cheney look all the more competent, professional and really seeking the truth of what happened before, during and after january 6th. >> republicans will tell you their best friend when they're in the minority across d.c. is the idea of demo

but is the insurrection the new benghazi? the first hearing of this house select committee to investigate the january 6th attack. and republican lawmakers like new york's elise stefanick were trying to turn the tables and pin the deadly riot on the democrats. it's straight out of the gop playbook, and it's eerily reminiscent of how republicans twisted the tragedy in benghazi into a witch hunt against hillary clinton for overtly political purposes. >> everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? but we put together a benghazi special committee, a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping. why? because she's untrustable. but no one would have known any of that had happen if we had not fought -- >> i agree. >> joining me now is not someone who is untrustable. he is congressman eric swalwell of california, member of the house intelligence committee who was an impeachment manager in donald trump's second impeachment trial earlier this year. congressman swalwell, great to see you again. than

january 6 is the new benghazi. speaker pelo is the new hillary clinton. have the capitol police prepared enough, is the hillary clinton standdown, the theatrics on part of kevin mccarthy, the constitutional duty speaker pelosi is trying to engage in. >> kevin mccarthy more to blame than the speaker? >> i think yes. republicans still get to pick him up but clearly they would have screwed up the whole works. why did they get picked? a, it could have been so nancy pelosi could drive them off and he could have a fit. he must have forseen that. the second, it is further about where the party is, it is more a jordan party than a cheney party. so the party is still over there. mccarthy is not an ideological person, but he probably knows where the center of his caucus is. i read a piece in the new york times by michael wolf, just had dinner with him, he was certain trump was going to run for president again. if he runs again, i guess that is the center of the party and what mccarthy has to -- judy: he -- this is a minority leader of the party who is responding to

consulate in benghazi. she was up on stage recounting her suffering at the loss of her son.emember feeling awful for her. it was hard not to feel that when someone in your presence is in obvious pain and while the politics of it all seemed manipulative, at no time did i feel compelled to ridicule this woman who was offering suffering a grievous loss. i had a tv show at the time. if i were a sociopath, i could have, but it never occurred to me. that's not what the conservative movement and the maga era is about. mocking people is a huge part of the point. it's why they are doing it. not surprisingly this is what we saw last night. >> psychological trauma he endured as an excuse for ditching our bill of rights. >> i have been left with the psychological trauma and the emotional anxiety of having survived a horrific event. >> what's interesting is that michael fanone didn't mention any trauma during the time he spent last year on the d.c. police force. >> an exaggeration in a supporting role, the winners who thinks the pan is literally mightier than the sword. >> we had all the

. >> he wanted the benghazi -- >> you said i could answer. >> answer the question i'm asking. >> i am is about politics. that is the answer to the question. bennie thompson just came out and said we may not just stick to the deadline of the end of the year. we may just keep doing this forever. that tells you everything you need to know about this. this is a political issue, and by the way, as a campaign operative, as a republican, i'm kind of glad. if the democrats want to run on '22 about january 6, which affects no one's lives in this country every day, republicans are going to run on securing the border -- >> hold on, january 6 affects no one's lives in this country? >> this commission is not going to affect people's lives. >> how could not having answers to an ongoing threat -- mike! an ongoing threat, a life or death threat according to dhs -- >> that's why the fbi is investigating. political theater has no bearing. >> do i need to remind you what kevin mccarthy said about benghazi and that commission? let's find the truth, wherever the truth takes us. >> and you know what? and t

we learned from benghazi the so-called tyranny of distance. if the taliban takes kabal, will the biden administration recognize it as the legitimate government of afghanistan? will we shudder our embassy and aid programs? the reality is they do not know. they cannot say. there is no plan. it is not courageous to abandon our allies. that is a view many democrats said they held when the last president considered withdrawing from syria and afghanistan. host: senator mcconnell from late may on the senate floor about plans for getting out of afghanistan. this is off of twitter. a viewer says as a veteran, i understand the toll but there is a way to draw down. there is a chaotic approach. it should have been more gradual. maybe september 1 of next year. this is bob from missouri supporting withdrawal. from j.t. in kentucky, also supporting the president's pullout of troops. trillions of dollars wasted, thousands of americans dead, 20,000 wounded. those are some of the thoughts off our social media sites, particularly amongst veterans of the afghanis

resources to get to benghazi and by the time they got there it was too late.ve on to another subject. there's also the question that i think a lot of americans ask about the millions of girls in afghanistan and women, the girls in school, the women leading full lives, what happens if the taliban takes over and puts all of those girls and women under sharia law, puts the women back under the burqa. are we really saying that's not our problem. >> i think the progress of women and girls in afghanistan, it's the world's problem, it's everybody's problem. we share the concerns over the progress they've made and the progress they have yet to make. that's why we continue to call for a negotiatessed political solution to the end of the wall they that is afghan led, that the afghan people have a voice in saying, not imposed on them outside the country. it has to be afghan led and a peaceful sentiment so the progress can continue. the president's made clear, we're going to keep a diplomatic presence in kabul, that means continuing the programs and initiatives that we co

look what happened in benghazi because our flight -- it took hours for flights to get there. for troops on the ground. we h i believe, three casualties this year. none of them combat related. we are still in germany after defeating hitler. and we are in korea and japan after world war ii. and that's been to our benefit to help stabilize the region. i just think this is going to go down as a terrible mistake. >> shannon: the president did talk, too, about these caucuses about why to get out and when to get out. i will play a little bit more of what he had to say on that front today. >> the u.s. military mission in afghanistan continues to the end of august. let me ask those who want us to stay. how many more -- how many thousands more americans, daughters and sons, are you willing to risk? i will not send another generation of americans to war in afghanistan with no reasonable expectation of achieving a different outcome. the united states cannot afford to remain tethered to policies creating a response to a world as it was 20 years ago. >> shannon: mollie, that gets to your p

her numbers are dropping. >> not about what they found out about benghazi or didn't find out. it's about her numbers. making them drop. joining us, now, congressman adam schiff. member of the select committee and chairman of the house intelligence committee. so, chairman schiff, this house gop resolution that failed tonight, which demanded speaker pelosi seat mccarthy's picks for the committee. is this anything other than just, you know, gamesmanship by kevin mccarthy? >> no, that's all it is and i think you summed up, both, mccarthy and the -- the lack of any dedication to principle, ideology, anything but maintenance of his position. this is just more of the same effort at distraction. um, and i think you also made a very important point, at the outset, which is at the end of the day, what this insurrection was about was about a large group of people unwilling to accept the results of a democratic election and willing to use violence to have their way. and that is a very dangerous sign that our democracy is on thin ice. and one of the things that i hope that we will shed lig

consulate in benghazi, libya, that left four americans dead, including u.s.assador chris stephens. no one here believes that moment is imminent, but even tightening the noose around the capital is a concern. >> there are concerns about gaining control of some of the highways that are important points of supply for our embassy. >> reporter: the taliban say they have no intention of taking kabul by force or storming the u.s. embassy, but they consider all foreign forces left behind as invaders, and, therefore, legitimate targets. >> charlie d'agata in kabul. >>> closer to home as the u.s. economy diggs out after more than a year of covid restrictions, there is one roadblock that will take months to clear up. the global shortage of computer chips. they help run everything from dishwashers to fighter jets, and chipmakers cannot keep up with the surge in demand. carter evans has this story. >> reporter: sony's new playstation 5 is in such short supply, he had to pay almost double the retail price to get one. >> you'd think since last christmas they'd start to catc

we all remember benghazi, the many probes that culminated in a select committee. in that case, the democrats participated, and there was that minority report that the majority made findings and we certainly see that in a political context. i think that will be the case for what this panel comes up with, and i think the speaker has been cognizant of that and she has made her choice. host: the writing of our guest can be found on the washington post. >> coming up, the president and the vice president give remarks on the 31st anniversary of the americans with disabilities act, live coverage from that rose garden starting at 11:10 eastern here on c-span. the u.s. house returns today at noon eastern, and work starts at 2:00 p.m. two-state members will take up a spending package for 2022 including funding for labor, education, energy and transportation. the senate returns at 3:00 p.m. eastern dude debate the nomination of the assistant attorney general for environment and natural resources. off the senate floor, negotiations continue on an infrastructure bill the could

i wasn't a member during the benghazi hearings.ut i can tell you that i was in the room when former secretary of state hillary clinton slammed her fist down on the table and said what difference does it make. i can tell you that there were four americans left behind that lost their life that day. it absolutely makes a difference. and that's why it is so important that we got to the bottom of benghazi. there is still lingering issues from that. still documents that are classified that i believe the american people need to see and i think if we are to remain a constitutional republic we have to have that accountability and transparency. be it 9/11, benghazi or january 6, american people deserve to know exactly what happened today -- that day, the failures of leadership, and how we can make sure it never happens again. host: why were you in the room that day? guest: previously i served my district as deputy chief of staff for the representative who served the third district of florida for eight years and that was actually right at the

so the attack on benghazi was blamed on this video.ut what gets me is the us government was encouraging in american companies to center speech for another part of the world. again not giving the government much credit but that really demonstrates the amount of power these companies have in the way that they think the fact they would align with us state power to censor and other people's speech drove it home to me that was a most a decade ago. especially with the rise of the attempts to eradicate terrorism from the internet which is another chapter in the book. >> i apologize in advance it is a classic question in the least time of the day for the question may be beyond this is the scope of any single conversation. but toward the end of the book you zero in on one thing you would like to see with true and meaningful representation and inclusion how the platforms operate to be made by a broader group of people who have been excluded. can you speak to that point and give us more and why is that so important and if you feel comfortable to

benghazi. benghazi had, in the house alone, six investigations, including a select committee.if you compare and contrast, i don't want to minimize the loss of life in benghazi or the problems around the security of those locations. i don't want to minimize that. but let's compare and contrast those two events. and which is more foundation shaking to our democracy. the fact that the heart of our government was attacked and that these people were beating police officers -- americans were beating police officers at the heart of our government trying to protect the members -- elected members of our democracy that carry out the functions of that democracy, it is astounding to me that these same people who pounded the podium for years on benghazi, for years are saying no. it was obvious they were doing it to hurt hillary clinton's numbers. it was a bold political move. this doesn't have to be. they're making it political by refusing to come together and do what most americans want, and that is find out what trump did, why he didn't do more. why the pentagon wasn't ready. all the que

democrats did not have faith in the benghazi hearings, republicans did not have faith in the investigations of the trump administration. there is a perception that this is going to largely be used as a way of beating up on congressional republicans, if there wasn't the case there would have been more bipartisan report for the committee. at the same time there are clearly a lot of people who would like to know more information about what happened on january 6. obviously a lot of it can be sussed out what happens to the people who get prosecuted. there are certainly big picture questions that those prosecutors aren't well-designed to answer that in theory if we could have confidence in the select committee that the committee might be able to answer. certainly a lot of republicans think they are simply weaponizing this politically and that they want to continue relitigating 2020 because the midterm elections in 2024 don't look as good for them. host: this is jesse on the democrats line. caller: good morning. i'm calling because i barely caught it pieces of the comments, i heard a false equival

supported television channel showed the video to rilee people up against the us so the attack on benghazias also blamed on this video and what really gets me is the us government was paternalistic lee encouraging the american company to censor and another part of the world. i'm not giving those governments much credit because they do their own censorship but that demonstrates the amount of power these t companies has and the way they think the lining was state power and that drove it home for me in which areas from the internet which is another chapter in the book. >> onee last question before i turn it over to questions in the chat. i apologize in advance it is the classic what is to be done and it is too big about the internet that is beyond the scope of any single conversation but you zero in on one thing you would like to see that we need true and meaningful representation and the decision how these platforms operate need to be made by a broader group of people who have been excluded. can you speak specifically to that point and why is that so important and what might that look like?

the select committee may resemble the select committee that investigated the attack on the in benghazi >>> allen weisselberg has surrendered himself. >>> former president trump in texas on wednesday. he not so far has made public statements about the developments in the courts today. he did have something to say about the border wall. >> we have to get that painted now. they have to paint it, because if they don't paint it, bad things are happening. i'm looking and it has to be painted. >> we'll be monitoring that, certainly. everything happening in new york city and washington. follow me on social media. on twitter i am @scottmcgrew. >>> hard to believe it's july 1st, and it's also hard to believe 23 days until the olympics. for the first time in forever, you will be able to say surf's up. >> yeah, i always thought it was an olympic sport, but, hey, it's made up of two men and two women, and they are not training in colorado. one team member, we will listen to what she has to say. >> we are relying on mother nature. people will be interested in that, a lot of hurry up and waiting, and

this is not going to be benghazi, part two.partisan very quickly as congressman raskin notes. the question is this is what leading sem carats say this is their goal. can they accomplish it? >> we're going to create a report that's as comprehensive and holds up to time. >> maybe we'll be surprised if this will be a thought. examination by the republicans joining the democrats about what i think was the most significant threat to our legislatures and to the civil war. >> is there any prospect? any fact-finding no drama let's look into what happened on january 6th. let's assign blame based on evidence to people who are responsible. let's have an open mind until the end. any prospect of that? >> i think we're already past that point. this is going to be a partisan affair just by makeup of the committee, just by the fact that the republicans rejected the bipartisan commission. so that train has left the station. but, you know, i think both sides really risk a lot politically by turning this into a circus. not just democrats. republi

let's get something straight about the benghazi hearing. that was 40 years of harassment for hillary clinton prosecuting richard nixon. that's all that is. host: let's go to richard in cincinnati, ohio who opposes. richard, you are next. richard in cincinnati, hello? caller: hey, pedro. thanks for taking my call. i wanted to talk about nobody wants to talk about it, and i know polo see ain't gonna look into it regarding the fascination of ashli babbitt. for just that i oppose this. host: what's the relevancy there? caller: the relevancy echo well we had a veteran that was unarmed that was assassinated, by its coming out it was some kind of security regarding pelosi, and nobody knows what happened. host: beside your thinking on that one about the formation of this committee, why do you oppose that? caller: because it's all political. straight up, come on, this is all political stuff regarding democrats trying to hurt them in the 22 election and trying to keep the republicans in the news instead of letting the country know how biden and his a

this will be similar to the one investigated benghazi.as we have reported, charges brought against trump organization's cfo. here's a picture of him in front of the courthouse or in the courthouse, and the trump organization made a statement saying the prosecution was politically motivated. >>> former president trump in texas, he has not so far made public statements about the development but did have something to say about the border wall. >> we have to get that painted out now. they have to painted it, because if they don't paint it, bad things are happening. >> we are watching what is happening in florida and in new york city, and the courts there. on twitter @scottmcgrew. >>> it's the 1st of july, and it's 23 days until the tokyo olympics. for the first time ever you will be able to say, surf's up. >> yeah, olympic sport for the first time, and the u.s. team hard at work getting ready. it's made up of two men and two women. they are on the beaches of the pacific in southern california at san clemente. you can watch everything from the

that there were documents that were requested, not only the irs case but also in the clinton case, benghazi all those sorts of a things. but never the mind of the subpoena and we will see if senator is johnson & johnson get with their demand, and it should be your us look at. the congress 182018 were midterms. there were a lot of things that were flowing out the door. i didn't part the department of justice. because they have all kinds of allegations that sounds like it turned out to be totally worded. there's an atmosphere there that affected the 2018 midterms. >> that's exactly right. at the point is real simple. if the excuse for not going forward -- a book we are talking search warrants, grand jury subpoenas. they progress in their investigation enough to get down to the ready nitty-gritty take it to the grandd jury. but we don't want to put our thumb on the rail and impact the election, but they did it? you got that from big tax sensor a sponsorship for sure and we also got it from the left-wing media we don't need to get it from the department of justice. they put their thumb on the s

majority leader steny hoyer said mccarthy should cooperate just as democrats did with the benghazi committeening china's rise as inevitable and vowing that it would not be bullied by foreign countries. this all happeningommemorating f the communist party. david culver is live for us. tell us more. >> reporter: yeah, 100 years ago about a few dozen folks gathered here, they started the party that has now grown to some 95 million members. and we have a look at just how much it has grown and of course they love to demonstrate this through pomp and circumstance, the performance that they put on today in beijing, now the world's second largest economy, it is a fast modernizing military that is unnerving. rivals such as the u.s. and it is of course continuing on this trajectory. and they say they will not back down. and we heard from president xi jinping, programs the most powerful leader in decades here, and he said china will not be contained. take a listen. >> translator: at the same time, the chinese people will never allow ourselves to be bullied, oppressed or enslaved by any foreign powers.

while it will be called partisan by republicans i will note that the benghazi committee was also trashedovered key facts including hillary clinton's e-mail server that changed the direction of american history. so facts have a way of taking on a life of their own regardless of the political spin around it. >> democrats chose to participate in that committee and then defended hillary clinton to a degree they wanted to. an option that mccarthy will not have. we could do the whole segment on this but i have to late it go right there. as we mentioned members of the january 6th compete are holding their first hearing tomorrow. i had a chance recently to speak to their new boss, tom manager. like something out of a movie he says he was pulled out of retirement to run the agency in one of the most turbulent periods we have ever seen. >> why did you apt job with 535 bosses. >> i was enjoying requirement. if you asked me on january 5th do you want to be a police chief i would have said no, i'm fine, but the events of january 6th changed that. as i was riveted to the television watching what was g

i remember benghazi. what is the difference? this is more badder then benghazi was to me.hey don't care about the american people. they care about themselves and donald trump in the party for all the republican party need to be voted out. get some young republicans in there who care about the american people. host: live view of the u.s. this friday morning. some of the callers eludes you a cloudy morning, but the temperatures are expected to heat up today, and dry conditions for the holiday weekend. if you're coming to washington, d.c., for the fireworks, the parade, the national archive, a tour of the museums. we will have more calls and comments in just a moment. should republicans serve on this select committee announced yesterday by the speaker of the house nancy pelosi? inside "the washington post" is more on the condo collapsed in florida. a photograph of the president and first lady, makeshift memorial with pictures of loved ones lost as the rescue and recovery efforts continue. the president spending hours meeting with the victims and their family members. here is

if you think about this, you know, with the previous select committees we've seen, even with benghazithe obama administration, you never saw republican leadership veto democratic members, and so i think that's going to be very controversial if pelosi ends up doing that, even though she said she was considering it. >> right. well, appears to all be about political point scoring rather than the investigation. rachel bade, thanks very much. >> thank you. >>> well, we are already seeing major lines, record numbers at airports across the country as we head into the holiday weekend. it is busy out there. we're going to have much more on what it all looks like next. save $500 on all tempur-breeze mattresses. they told me you can't make a boombox fly. so i built a boomboxasaurus... with code! and we did it together in our live online coding class. at byju's! build your own world at byju's futureschool with live one-on-one coding classes taught by expert teachers. join our summer program at byju's future school dot com. book a free trial class today! folks the world's first fully autonomous ve

very similar to the efforts she took that, even when she was skeptical a few years ago around the benghaziommission, we it's a similar situation that kevin mccarthy finds himself in. she was skeptical of what that might produce, but appointed serious legislators, and serious investigators that acted in a serious way around this investigation. so i think for her, and she understands this methodical, truthful, fact based, i think that's what she has set out to do. i think that's exhibited in the appointments she's made. she's made this commission bipartisan. list cheney is gonna be very active in this commission i think it's gonna cover some things that will shock all of us. i don't know what those are, but i know that republicans are fighting this hard enough to know that there is something in there that will really jar. >> kevin mccarthy would have you all believe that liz cheney has suddenly become some sort of a lefty, liberal lover. i think we will all find that that is not actually the truth. bill good to see you as always, robert good to see you. our guests have agreed to stay with us

one of my long-term goals has been to have a chance to attend in benghazi the ribbon-cutting for the christopher stevens memorial american center in that wonderful city that was so devastated after his death. but where i've never seen greater sentiment for friendship with the united states in any middle eastern city i've been in. i would like things to come full-circle. gerald: thank you so much for spending this hour with us. for a time of a legend u.s. retrenchment and retreat from the middle east, we still have a full plate of issues and a full plate of u.s. engagements and commitments to the states of the middle east, the people of the middle east. there are a lot of issues we did not have a chance to touch on today and we would love to have another opportunity to talk about some of the other things on people's minds. but we are delighted to have had this opportunity and delighted to have an old friend and colleague representing the great state of new jersey in congress and >> c-span's washington journal every day. we are taking your calls like on the air on the news of the day a

other than pretending that benghazi never happening, the difference is, this undertaking, this investigation, is real and will bring about real results, how can the republicans continue to ignore this going on in their midst? >> brian, we've talked about this since january. many of them are concerned about what will be revealed, in terms of even complicity from their own membership, in the house republican conference, let alone, what president trump was doing in the weeks leading up and what he did during those terrible hours. they want to avoid it as much as possible. the reason you saw two members who voted to support the committee, versus the ten who voted to impeach president trump for the insurrection, because in the ensuing months, leadership has made it clear that the best thing you can do is back away. even if you are as clear as what happened on january 6th, as anthony gonzales was, when trump went to ohio, because of his impeachment vote, you can back away from the committee saying, it's a process that i don't think will work well. it has nothing to do with the incitement or the in

so i am very hopeful that leader mccarthy will, as we did in the benghazi investigation, participate, appoint members and proceed. >> now congressman, help me out. why did so many of the same lawmakers who last month voted overwhelmingly in favor of a national holiday celebrating black freedom from slavery, voted this week to keep statutory of slavery's most passionate defenders, those that quite literally founded a hostile nation, why did they vote to keep those statues in our u.s. capitol? >> i don't know that i'm the one that could answer that question. they have to answer that question. i don't have an answer as to why they would do that. again, they're soft pedaling the insurrection that occurred on january 6 with one member saying absurdly, oh, well, they just looked like tourists visiting the capitol. anybody who has seen the videos know that's not true. and when they're treating insurrectionists or people who promoted hate and separation and segregation being honored the capitol of the united states, it should not happen. and that's what that vote was about. and why -- as you

because we all remember what mccarthy said about the benghazi select committee and the impact on hillarythe election. >> i'd say look at what speaker pelosi has tried to do. we tried to get the past by legislation. it didn't work. she's then tried to come up with the select committee. she gave minority leader mccarthy an opportunity to put real, credible, dedicated folks on this committee and some that are and some that are not given their statements and actions in the fast. and now she's tried to continue to do that. this is a bipartisan committee. with subpoena authority to try to actually get at truth. so i think what she's done lines up exactly with what the senator has said. and i would hope that republican leadership takes heed of senator toomey's comments as well. >> what do you think, charlie, of that and also of the unfounded criticism by some of your former colleagues, republican colleagues in the house, who have just directly blamed pelosi and said it was her failures that led to the -- to the security failures on multiple fronts on the first of january when we know those enti

she's creating this sort of straw person like saying benghazi or fauciism or whatever the expression is, to get people riled up over something that is the most common and decent of things. tell your open story, listen to people you trust in your own neighborhood. if you have questions about getting vaccinated, talk to people you know. i think that's all the president is suggesting. >> i mean, it is this kind of phony outrage machine, and it's propaganda, and it keeps coming -- how much of it is keeping us from fully overcoming this pandemic? the longer this drags out, the longer these variants mutate and pop up, the more people who remain unvaccinated, it just goes on and on. >> right. look, i think we have about 30% of the population who's not vaccinated yet. i think about a third or about 10% are people that are, have real considerations. they have real concerns. they want to see more information. they're nervous about it, but they're taking it seriously, but they are subject to misinformation and disinformation. you have another 20% in the solidly,ly solidly i will not consider it

>> reporter: the one thing we're learning is democrats don't want this to become like the benghazi selects a presidential candidate during that period of time. instead, they want this to be a serious look into exactly what happened on january 6. so part of what that means is that a lot of their work could be done behind closed doors, in private session where is they discuss sensitive material. and at the same time, they're going to make sure that the scope of this investigation goes beyond just form e president donald trump. they acknowledge that they are going to have to look at his role in all of this, and that could come into question. but they don't want to make it just about him. they want to look at the security precautions, the response time, and a lot of the other issues that led to everything that happened on that day. and that they're hoping that they can do it as bipartisan as possible. of course, wolf, that is going to depend a lot on who kevin mccarthy appoints to his five positions. he's yet to say who that is. that will determine a lot how well this committee works together

instead of a wrestling, match or benghazi 900, today we got actual republicans, liz cheney of wyomingand kinzinger of illinois taking the investigation seriously. >> if those responsible are not held accountable, and if congress does not act responsibly, this will remain a cancer on our constitutional republic. undermining the peaceful transfer of power at the heart of our democratic system. we will face the threat of more violence in the weeks to come, and another january 6th every four years. what we had here to the rule of law? will we respect the rulings of our courts? when >> we preserve the peaceful transition of power? or will be so blinded bipartisanship that we throw away the miracle of america? >> do we hate our political adversaries more than we love our country? and revere our constitution? >> you guys may, like individually feel more broken. you guys all talk about the effects you have to deal with, and you talk about the impact of that day. >> you guys won. you guys held. democracy's are not defined by our bad days. we are defined by how we come back from those bad days.

it was benghazi, and national security as the focus. i was in there in the ground floor. there was a woman named pat smith, the mother of one of the people who died in the 2012 attack on the u.s. -- woke because we, she was up there talking about the loss of her son. i remember feeling awful for her. it was hard not to feel that when someone in your presence, is in obvious pain. while the politics of it all seemed many punitive, at no time did i feel -- compelled to ridiculed this woman who was suffering. i had a tv show at the time, if i was a sociopath, i could have. and never courts me though. that's not with the conservative movement and maga era is all about. mocking people for their loss, their pain, it's a huge part of the point. it's why they're doing it. not surprisingly, this is what we saw last night. >> watch for no insight these psychological trauma he endured for an excuse to ditch our bill of rights. >> i have been left with the psychological trauma and emotional anxiety of having survived such a horrific event. >> [laughs] it's interesting that michael fan