> the president spoke on thursday and talking about benghi and the irs scandal and talked about the ap- scandal and said let's make sure it doesn't happen again. but how did it happen in the first place? >> what would be terrible for the economy would be a terrorist terrorist attack. if the a p compromised a counter terror operation thatelped the terrorist terrorist tha needs to be investigated. jemu, the a p held off a full week waiting for the government to say go with that story. and the white house didn't have problems with the bin ladin kill. nleaks that put us in jeopardy and tip off terrorist unacceptable. it was not acceptable when the bush administration did it with valerie plain. >> be honest abouthat now. if you ask the a p for the roars. why is it so secret? the irs has a b push to have everybody's taxes electronically filed. they want all of your medical records electronically submitted, too. and a of this information is out there. and the world is changing and advancing, they are taking advantage of . >> they want more information on our health re and the same people that

neil: no documents to be had, after 9 months of the benghi attacks, white house ver much on dense stilln an inch. is this defiant, denial what i going to bring benghazi back to the front pages andast? we ask former special council to president clinton lanny davis. this adds fue to some fire, you were this morning on wor, you referred to you know eric holder going after james rosen as a coconspirate or a politicly brain dead move, do you think that moves or crackdowns we've seen have echoed that? >> if you d't mind my shameless pg of the crisis wh"crisistales." if you have bad fats you better -- facts you bter put the out early. they are going to come out, why fight when you know what is going to happen. neil: inflational security is a valid defense? >> it might be if they nt to litigate it in courts and lose in court of public opion. there is no way to win in the court of public opinion i there is a classified document that could give up lives, methods and techniques of course. but if chairman issa looks at that document, he will say no, i wn want that document, but they could show it t

they said that benghi is a cover-up by this administration ambassador stevens withdrew a force ofionre the attack. on the 18th of august. >> they are in benghazi. they have changed the relationship with the defense strategy,. lou: wireless christopher stevens in benghazi? to well, they are whistleblowers that are going to come forward. let's just say that it was a national security outpost. i think a lot of tis was conducted outside of the state department and defense department. when the white house on sunday said that we can have in a relevant situation, but they won't give you a timeline with the president was up to. why was that directive ignored. >> [inaudible] lou: hank, what you have to say? >> let's face it, folks. why don't you call the white house? congress has tried for eight months. that is you customary standard. you know very well that it is at the prerogative of this president. >> how many others were there? lou: the fact is the pattern that each one of these offenses are aimed against our traditional form of government. i thank you a for being here. lis wiehl, hank >>

i want to know where the people were becse we w tothe prevent another benghi.ministrationjust keeps deflectinn the cts because they call them irs veal aunt. gerri: lou joins me now. what do you he on the agenda tonight? >> well, we're going to havea live eport, of corse, from moore, oklahoma,the latest for you on the devastation of that, at is now cassified as an f5 tornado that hit te community, and we'll aalso have mir rack ce louse news about reduction in fatalities. also, tonight, last on the credibility crisis th rocks the white house. today, jay carney, again, revising the tory of who knew what andwen in the irs scandal. we'll be telling you about the stunningbomb shel, a remarkable story, joined by two leading conressmen to talk with congressman ji jordan and talking wit ron desantis and much more at the top of the hour. gerri: can'ait, lou, thanks for coming ontonight. good to see you. >> thanks, good to see you. rri: comin up, waste, fraud, and ause as the government spends your taxpayer dollars a texng program. unbelievable. next, we cntin the indidt

night said, quote: you're concocting scandals here that don't exist, especially with regard to the benghi quote. a new gallup poll shows you ju how far afield and out of touch carney is. a majority of americans feel quite differtly and stronglgly so. 74% of voters want the irs scandal investigated further. 69% feel the same way about benghazi. congressman mike kelly spoke on behalf of a lot of americans at today's hou ways and means committee on the irs scandal. he gave the outgoing acting irs commissioner a piecece of his mind, and the result was a standing ovation. >> if anybody to sit here today and listen to what you have to say, i am more concerned today than i was before, andhe fact that you all can do just about anything you want to anybody, you know, you can put anybody out of business that you want anytime you want. and i've got to te you, you talked about y're a horribly-run organization? you're on the other side of the fence. you're not giving that excuse. and when the irs comes in, you're not allowed to be shoddy, you're not allowed make mistakes, you're not allowed to do one

this would effectively return secretary of state clinton to the center of this now swirlin swirling benghir. >> harris: you wonder if she would then be called again to testify or what kind of role going forward she might play in all this. just getting back to this whistle blowers, james, this is breaking wide open on sunday evening. they're set to testify in just a couple of days. you say you've reached out to some of the people affected by this. i'm curious. are there other lawmakers now coming on the record on this sunday night? >> reporter: yes. we saw on "fox news sunday" this morning congressman jason chaff chaffetz, a member of the house oversight committee that's chairld bchairld bychaired by cl issa and we've learned what mark thompson is going to testify. it's not the only thing he'll testify to about clinton and kennedy but it's probably the most sensational charge we'll hear at the hearing. we want to point out we've reached out to clinton and kennedy and so far have not heard back from them. >> harris: all right. come back this hour as the news warrants, james rosen, because it