>> not pacino, but robert de niro and benicio del toro and >> selma hay-- yes. >> yes. >> so, i think it really means something... >> right. >> ...that you -- there's something else, other things you could be doing. but to spend the time at rikers with people that a lot of folks have written off... >> right, right. well, you know what, everything stella lived for could be summed up in the idea, the insight that growth as an actor and growth as a human being are synonymous. and our mission is to create an environment that nurtures theater artists and audiences so that they value humanity, their own and others, as their first priority, while bringing art and education to the community. there's no reference in our mission to being a professional actor, though we, as you say, ones. but really it's about the quality of your humanity, your capacity to nurture your own yourself as a servant... >> mm. >> ...to other people, to the humanity of others, that the theater is a powerful tool to uplift, edify humanity. so, that's who we were. >> and touch lives. >> yes, yes. >> and have you had the