benj now one contention is that the e.u. in funding group homes is not funding independent living it's funding many institutions which have all the characteristics of big institutions and that that should stop what the un convention is is does not define what independent living means it is as you rightly pointed in the right approach and the right to base choice for the person with disabilities should make so in this respect a d.c. or indeed important to ask persons with disabilities what do they want and how do they want to live when or ponson floral say we're going to stick to the convention we're going to push me she living which is an e.u. policy and get on with it this is absolutely what you can try to do you interpret it has been saying and you is also fully aware of all responsibilities and are competent says when it comes to the independent living so instead of trying to put me in a position of really not doing anything i wish you would recognize what we have been doing and that we have been the really doing a lot bu