joining me is benjamin crump, attorney for the trayvon family. dramatic developments tonight with the release of a lot of evidence. i want to go through some of this with you in order if i may. first of all, the revelation that there were traces of thc, a by-product of marijuana, inside of trayvon martin's body. what do you make of that? is it significant? is it relevant? >> there's no significance that there was trace amounts of marijuana in trayvon martin's system. piers, what's really relevant is the fact there was no toxicology report done on george zimmerman and we don't know what else was in his system with the prescribed medicines he was on to have him get out of his car, and profile, pursue, and confront trayvon martin and kill trayvon martin in cold blood, even though he was unarmed. so the trace amounts of marijuana is irrelevant. >> the second point is this photograph. quite fascinating. it seems to have been taken in the back of the car after george zimmerman is taken to the police station from the scene of the incident. it's a very g

. >> reporter: lawyer benjamin crump represents the teenager's parents. >> if you're a parent, you know, that is... there's an unimaginable thought that this is the last few minutes of my child's life. >> reporter: the state's evidence filed details injuries from the fight but offers no clear clues to explain what started the confrontation. it began as martin was talking to his girlfriend on his cell phone and here is what she told police. >> reporter: one witness told police he saw martin pummeling zimmerman like a mixed martial arts expert. >> reporter: but another witness' description is murkier. >> reporter: some of the case's most important evidence has yet to be made public, including zimmerman's three interviews with police and his cell phone records. we've learned that includes texts zimmerman sent after the shooting, some of them disparage leaders of justice for trayvon rallies with language described as offensive. mark o'mara, zimmerman's lawyer, has yet to get copies of all those texts. so you still will be looking for that? >> absolutely. >.>> reporter: and if there's there?

. >> joining us from orlando is been gentlem benjamin crump, attorney for trayvon martin's parents. >. >> will we ever know who threw the first punch? >> we don't think that's completely relevant when you think about the fact we know who pursued in this matter. we know it was george zimmerman who got out of his car on that rainy night and profiled, pursued and confronted trayvon martin. and the police concluded, if he simply would have stood down and not disregarded the police instructions, none of this would have happened. he wouldn't be in jail and trayvon martin would be living. >> and yet you have these reports from the hospital about the bruises, the cuts on trayvon martin's hands and then the eyewitness accounts of a mixed martial arts type beating that ensued. is that going to make it harder for you to prosecute zimmerman under second-degree murder? >> we don't think so. we're happy that all the evidence is out so it could be fully vetted and looked at by everybody, interpreted for themselves and not have an interpreter. when you look at autopsy reports, trayvon martin had one

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i you, i would have hired the most prominent black attorney in the norfolk area, someone like benjamin crump who represents the trayvon martin family in florida. i think that would diffuse and even reverse any kind of racial connotation and may work in the benefit. but, let me assume the guys, remembering my advice that i would have hired an african-american attorney. okay. what i would do first, is hold a press conference on the steps of the police department or city hall in norfolk and i would announce to the people in the commonwealth of virginia that i think a grave injustice is being done here. a toxic combination of political correctness and lazy police work has led to my clients, david forster and marjon ross ross tammy. these two guys were brutally beaten. i call on the commonwealth of virginia right now to release any relevant 911 calls. >> bill: we ought to tell the folks maybe they don't know the case. they won't release the 911 tape. the norfolk police saying there is an investigation and that might hinder it. >> bogus. how many times have we heard 911 call including in the trayv

. >> benjamin crump, thank you for your time. >> thank you, piers. >> i want to get reaction from georgerman's attorney mark o'mara. i know you can't talk about for legal reasons about specification, but on a general level, what's your reaction to all this coming out now? >> well, we knew it was coming. it's several pieces of the puzzle that we now have to put together. i would only ask until everyone wait until we have all the pieces to put it all together. >> do you accept as one undeniable fact that if george zimmerman had stayed in his car then none of this would have happened? >> yes, as simply if trayvon martin hadn't been in the complex, none of this could have happened. but you're going back to circumstances that we look at now, and i don't think it's reality though. >> george zimmerman's ability through you to defend himself under florida's stand your ground law rests entirely on proving, i guess, that he was attacked by trayvon martin. is that really where we are with this case? >> i think that a lot of people believe that. i think the analysis of the law is a little bit differ

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i you, i would have hired the most prominent black attorney in the norfolk area, someone like benjamin crumpe trayvon martin family in florida. i think that would diffuse and even reverse any kind of racial connotation and may work in the benefit. but, let me assume the guys, remembering my advice that i would have hired an african-american attorney. okay. what i would do first, is hold a press conference on the steps of the police department or city hall in norfolk and i would announce to the people in the commonwealth of virginia that i think a grave injustice is being done here. a toxic combination of political correctness and lazy police work has led to my clients, david forster and marjon ross ross tammy. these two guys were brutally beaten. i call on the commonwealth of virginia right now to release any relevant 911 calls. >> bill: we ought to tell the folks maybe they don't know the case. they won't release the 911 tape. the norfolk police saying there is an investigation and that might hinder it. >> bogus. how many times have we heard 911 call including in the trayvon martin case. yo

this does nothing in the opinion of benjamin crump, the family attorney for the martin family to absolvemerman of killing trayvon martin because they say you can't initiate or provoke an encounter and then claim self-defense towards the end of that suggestion if you're losing the fight. that is the whole point bit special prosecutor's office. that is why they charged zimmerman with second-degree murder. bill: what can we expect? what else can we expect when it is made public, phil? >> reporter: that is massive amount of documents. it may come out today. could be any day now. may not be as soon as we all hope but trayvon martin's autopsy report is also going to be in this discovery document dump and according to one of the orlando tv stations last night they are reporting that the autopsy entree von shows that he had a obviously a single bullet wound to the chest but also scrapes on his knuckles. the state's witness statements will be part of this discovery. 67 cds worth of documents. video of martin the night of the shooting. reporting that the 7-eleven nearby, where trayvon martin bough

benjamin crump is an attorney for the family of trayvon martin, mark o'mara is george zimmerman's attorney. gentlemen, good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning, sir. >> mr. crump, let me start with you, you won't have a role in a criminal trial if it results from this case. you do represent trayvon martin's family. you have seen this evidence. what do you think and what do the martin's think is the most important piece of new evidence we're seeing in this case? >> the most important piece, matt, is what the police determined it was completely avoidable if george zimmerman would have simply stayed in his car. if he wouldn't have profiled trayvon martin and pursued him and confronted him, he wouldn't be in jail, and more importantly, trayvon martin would be living today. >> you say if he hadn't profiled trayvon martin. have you seen any piece of evidence in this latest document release, mr. crump, that proves to you that george zimmerman targeted trayvon martin because of his race? >> well, all we know is what he said, that goes to his state of mind, in that 911 call. he

benjamin crump tells nbc news that they want full transparency of all the records because anything short of that is manipulation. when george zimmerman shot and killed trayvon martin, the state attorney first concluded there would be no charges. and key to his decision was the medical examiner's report examine was completed nearly three weeks after the shooting. the very same report was viewed by the special prosecutor who charged zimmerman in april. while the multipage autopsy is sealed by court order, nbc news was given access to read it. it says, in part, the teenager was killed by a penetrating gunshot wound to the chest, the entrance wound located on his left chest 17 inches below the head. the single bullet passed directly from the front to the back, through his lungs, creating perforations. the only injuries to trayvon martin are from the gunshot and to one knuckle, a quarter inch to one-eighth inch abrasion on the fourth finger in the ring area. trayvon's gunshot wound entrance of intermediate range. how close was that? the medical examiner's report says there was a soot ring abr