i spoke earlier with benjamin crump. he's the attorney for michael brown's family.eved about the justice department report. they weren't yet ready to talk about any resignation of the mayor there. they are obviously relieved by the resignation of the police chief. they want to wait and see. that's understandable isn't it? >> yeah i think so. at best the doj report provides some hope of transformations to come. the removing of these few individuals, so far i think we have five individual who is have been removed in ferguson is a small step but really we want to see transformations of the systems that have been allowed to exist for too long. that's what the doj report outlines. the systems in place, not just individual actions. i hope the mayor acknowledges there are systems in place in ferguson and beyond that prey on african-americans and prey or poor people. this isn't just the lone action offense a few individuals. >> you're the president ceo of the naacp. you don't believe it's an isolated incident. there's other examples of this kind of stuff happening all over

benjamin crump joins me now. it's great to have you with me.e reaction of the family as they are hearing about the fact that the ferguson police chief was resigning, the rally was taking place and then this shooting happens. how do they feel? >> they condemn this heinous act of violence. they don't believe this in any way helps them achieve their mission, which is justice for their child. it is very troubling for them and so many others because there's so many peaceful protesters that have been exercising their first amendment constitutional rights to address this very important issue and to have some stand-alone person come and do this act of violence is -- doesn't help in any way. whoever committed this heinous act of violence their message is they are not supporters of michael brown jr. >> it certainly undermines what you're talking about with the peaceful protesters and participants who have been there all along. we have the family of michael brown saying they condemn the senseless shooting of two ferguson police officers and reject any kin

. >>> i want to bring in benjamin crump, the attorney for the family of michael brown.g on in ferguson all started in august, this chapter started in august when michael brown was killed by officer darren wilson. thank you for being with us. you spent so much time in this community. i want your reaction to what happened overnight? >> when we woke up, we were outraged at what we were told happened last night at the police department. michael brown's parents condemn this ensless act of violence and whoever committed this heinous crime, this heinous act of violence does not in any way help them get justice for michael brown, junior. they in no way support michael brown, junior. that is the message from his mother and father. they pray these families of these injured officers can hopefully have a speedy recovery and they can all get through this. >> mr. crump, that is a message that through you they have tried to send really throughout their grief after michael brown was killed. what do they make of this incident, yet another situation, people shot, two officers, protesters

i mean, benjamin crump, the lawyer for the family is a stand up guy. comes on this program.ave told him many, many times if he could wave a magic wand, we have two lives. one life snuffed out and wilson's life is ruined. it's horrible. >> you will agree with me that we need a revamp in ferguson. revamp this whole thick and nobody should be targeted for tickets for revenue. that's the problem. >> no question. >> nobody in america should be a target of tickets for revenue. last word. >> no question. no question, bill. and, yes the justice department has started the job and pointed out that yes, there needs to be ferguson doesn't live on an island. there are little municipals all around that you have to drive through. four hills during all of this invented their own police department. they have a population of 800 people. they are the mayors are black, the police chief are are black, they are targeting everybody. that's how they are surviving. >> a lot of money. it's a shakedown. >> you mentioned benjamin crump. pine lawn has a population of 3000 people. they wrote 17,000 ticke

. >> joining me now is benjamin crump. attorney for the family of tamire rice. your response to the filing by the city of cleveland? >> it was shocking, chris. to say this 12-year-old kid who has now become the face of police excessive force in america is responsible for his own death, especially after you watch what you see on that surveillance video, chris. that is very important. it is 1.7 seconds that they come and shoot this child that is on a playground. and it is riveting because you see the gazebo there. there is a merry go round and a slide. when the car comes up as reckless as it does, if there was any other children on that playground they would have been in harm's way. it is just troubling on so many levels that you're now going to blame a 12-year-old child, based on what we see on this video. >> mr. crump, this is a legal filing in a city where they're defendants in a claim of wrongful death by the family that you represent. is it not the case that were you, the attorney for the city of cleveland, you would be essentially duty bound as an advocate t

benjamin crump joins me now in ferguson.en you first talked to the family michael brown's family after the shooting what was their initial response. >> everybody woke up to this horrible news and out there, sympathetic towards the families of these police officers that was shot and, you know, i just hope the law enforcement community would extend the same sympathy to her, but it was important for them to say that it's wrong. it's just wrong. this is not what anybody wants, anderson. think about what was going on the momentum where they were finally getting to respond to those terrible findings in the justice department and that momentum offers a distraction to try to get some real positive change. >> you're saying that apart from the horror of two police officers being shot here and being injured and the horror for their family and friends, it actually for the objectives or the protesters want it actually gets you farther away from those objectives. >> it gets you farther away because nobody talking about the doj report and

in montgomery for benjamin crump represents the family of trayvon martin the young boy killed in cleveland and michael brown. we had quite a celebration down in selma yesterday congressman -- mr. crump, but it comes in the week that the department of justice unveiled a scathing damning report of racial abuses in the ferguson police department. the the out going attorney general, eric holder says he's going to fix that. do you think he can? >> we have to look at not only what he said in the doj report on the ferguson police and this systemic, the scathing report of discrimination and police excessive force on african americans. also we have to look at these individual shooters and we can't have the department of justice sanitizing all these of people of color who are unarmed. we have to address that head on if we don't have consequences then we won't see any results if our most epidemic that you see unarmed people of color being killed all over america. >> schieffer: well as devastating as this report was there is not going to be any charges brought against police officer darren wilson who

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now let's bring in the attorney for michael brown's family attorney benjamin crump. attorney crump, what's your reaction? and i heard you just now speaking with the mother of michael brown. what's the family's reaction to this news about chief jackson? >> reverend al they are relieved that action is being taken, especially in light of the doj findings. these just horrible findings in a pattern and practice of discrimination and excessive force against african-american citizens which they have maintained from day one, reverend al was the approximate cause as to what happened to their teenage son in broad daylight. and they always said every citizen always said they don't treat us right here in ferguson. they profile us. and you know that reverend al, because you went to ferguson and heard the cries from the people. >> now, i remember early. i was in there 48 hours after the family call and i remember that from the first rallies, all the family the mother and father, the whole family stood up with such dignity. all they kept say is you must understood why there is oh s

. >> benjamin crump tested me a statement from leslie mcspaden and leslie brown jr. they've seen disappointing news the killer of our son wouldn't be held accountable for his actions, while we are saddened by this decision we are encouraged that the department of justice will hold the ferguson police department accountable for the pattern of racial bias and profiling, and ultimately they say it is our hope that through this action true change will come not only in ferguson but around the country, and if that change happens, our son's death will not have been in vain. this report and the decision not to file civil rights charges against officer wilson while saddening to them certainly i think they are encouraged by the fact that the justice department did find that this per vaesive racism does exist, and i haven't poured through all 105 pages because quite frankly it's so extensive, dense and so scathing but i think what is interesting is that they say that city officials have frequently asserted that the haar and disparate results of the law enforcement system don't

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let's bring in benjamin crump, the attorney for michael brown's family.nce august 9th when this first happened with the shooting. the family is very concerned about what these shootings of these officers could mean. what is that concern? >> well first they offer their sympathies to the officers and their families. and i hope that the law enforcement community offers sympathies to her and her family as they continue to encourage the community to work with the police. this is not what they wanted violence is never the solution. so they are saying work with the police so we can find these criminals who committed this heinous act. but more importantly, this is the opportunity for us to see how far we've progressed since august. the community and the police department in ferguson trying to work together on a common goal. not just those findings from doj, because that is what we really want to get back the focus on. and also we're trying to find out who committed this heinous act. >> while we keep hearing that we don't want the shootings to be a distraction fro

let's go to benjamin crump, the attorney for michael brown's family.about violence directed towards police. >> everybody is waking up to this terrible news. and michael brown's mother and father are continuously saying they condemn any acts of violence and whoever committed this heinous act of violence is no supporter of michael brown. there's nothing to help heal the community. it does nothing to help them get the justice that they seek. >> it takes, let's take it a step further. we're hearing a lot of equivalency from people involved in the protest and the situation, that hey you know if blacks who are unarmed got, weren't getting killed all the time you wouldn't have this violence towards the police why is there an equation between those two things? there's no question there's a problem. but there's less question as to whether or not violence towards police is any part of a solution is there in. >> violence is never the solution. that's why michael brown's mother and father have done psa's in the past trying to tell the community to please control y

and benjamin crump, lawyer for michael brown has family -- for michael brown family says he's disappointed, but not surprised. in failing to indict them for excessive deadly force against unarmed individuals is unjust. go ahead. caller: maybe we should consider the obvious, that blacks are committing 93% more of the crimes. if you go in and find out how many are driving without licenses, without insurance i think you will find out there is a lot more crime going on in the black community. i know that is not politically correct, but it's true. host: frank, do you think that could be related to economic situation, education? oh, we won't know. frank is gone. lizzie, independent color. caller: it's called personal responsibility to some degree. we have personal responsibility and we have she pull reaction from blacks. you have al sharpton and others feeding this, making people -- my people look like absolute idiots. and then you listen to the people who call in on your phones here. mostly are not democrats. the original ku klux klan, all democrats. you have robert burns sitting in the senate