benjamin franklin wrote, and i quote, "when men are employed, they are best contented." and women are unemployed. these are americans who have worked,ment to work, and will work again. our economy rests on the foundation of businesses big and small providing the goods and services that the market demands. many americans' livelihoods rest on businesses providing jobs which are currently in short supply. the unemployment rate is hovers around 9%, 14% of americans live in poverty including more than one-fifth of all u.s. children. many were unemployed have been searching for work for more than a year. these americans need a job, and the certainty that comes with going to work every day. in this environment, the business community has an opportunity and an obligation to help get americans back to work. businesses need to step up to the plate by having good paying jobs. this means not waiting for demand to fully recover, but giving americans a chance including the long-term unemployed. we want to make sure our tax code supports efforts to create jobs. our ultimate goal is not

point, most of the other american negotiators are okay with it, john adams and john jay but benjamin franklin will not give in on this point and he says, if you grant compensation i'm not going to fund the treaty. we have to keep on fighting the war. so if you want and edible reverse -- and it anticipates his own later active sort of property related and he writes william out of this will later and the two again and rarely ever meet again. so i think these family divides do matter and i do think what i think about most is getting into the personalities and getting individual experience is really important for explaining how history has operated. >> you saying your introduction that this is the first book about the loyalists exiles, the refugees. now that you ever did, what do you feel should be the second book about this? not necessarily by you but by somebody else. [laughter] if they would pick off from where you left off what would you like to say in his book on this topic? >> that is a great question. i think, well one thing that needs to be written up in a better form is what happens to t

point, most of the other american negotiators are okay with it, john adams and john jay but benjamin franklin will not give in on this point and he says, if you grant compensation i'm not going to fund the treaty. we have to keep on fighting the war. so if you want and edible reverse -- and it anticipates his own later active sort of property related and he writes william out of this will later and the two again and rarely ever meet again. so i think these family divides do matter and i do think what i think about most is getting into the personalities and getting individual experience is really important for explaining how history has operated. >> you saying your introduction that this is the first book about the loyalists exiles, the refugees. now that you ever did, what do you feel should be the second book about this? not necessarily by you but by somebody else. [laughter] if they would pick off from where you left off what would you like to say in his book on this topic? >> that is a great question. i think, well one thing that needs to be written up in a better form is what happens to t

. >> host: this book covers a and sweep of benjamin franklin tod bill clinton and beyond as it pt looks at the sex lives of politicians and americans reactions to it. let's hear next from providence star ryland. >> caller: can you tell me, how is the book so far and how are you doing with his great reception? >> guest: so far we have had great reviews.ad everybody has rated, when it pit seems, has had something positive sake. not to say there are people whoe resent that we are telling these stories about heroes of america, but the important thing, neither of us are trying to tear downn heroes or make them seem like they weren't important figures and get figures.s were more we're just trying to show their lives are a lot more complicated than what you were taught in high school and college. >> host: you are a member ofdem the academy, a professor at columbia. what is the reaction of colleagues to back. >> host: support to. >> guest: support. i teach at columbia and have a b long history of beieing very supportive. they understand that this was ae huge and opportunity to work with somebod

i think that benjamin franklin -- he said those who will sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither. the fact is that this is a real problem. i see it being a much greater problem. the think tanks that have looked at the issue, unfortunately, have said that in the next 10 years, there will be not one, but two dirty nuclear bombs exploded in the united states. i hope they're wrong. that is what the statistics show. if that does happen, god forbid, i believe that our fundamental democracy will be under the greatest attack it has ever experienced. as a matter of fact, one of the issues we're looking at in the aba is what would be the aba's response in the event there was a dirty nuclear bomb and habeas corpus was suspended in the united states, as it was by lincoln and by roosevelt? a lot of people don't remember that and don't know it. england, i was in england talking to their lawyers. i was talking to their security people. they don't have a constitution. they have much different ability to hold people for longer periods of time, and what they would do under similar circumstances. i

i think that benjamin franklin -- he said those who

i think that benjamin franklin -- he said those who will sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither. the fact is that this is a real problem. i see it being a much greater problem. the think tanks that have looked at the issue, unfortunately, have said that in the next 10 years, there will be not one, but two dirty nuclear bombs exploded in the united states. i hope they're wrong. at

they had to bring in the only american, benjamin franklin. so he comes and testifies that the american people will not accept the stat that he that gives them a call for repealing the stamp act. but they did a declaratory act, which says in effect, we are repealing this, but we have the right to do it. don't kid yourself you americans. parliament is sovereign. it's a lawmaking authority of the british empire and we have the right. we are just with china for prep to close fight, but don't get the message wrong. that's the declaratory act. now their englishman parliament has a sacred policy to it. parliament represents the people. the king in english history is always the enemy of the people. english history is a contest between going back to the magna carta. tyrannical kings and the people represented in the house of congress and the 13th century. and so they see the politics and parliament has a sacred quality. for the americans, parliament can't have that quality and they oppose parliament in 1765 in 1767 and so on. and the british are a lit

well as benjamin franklin said democracy is to wolves in the sheep voting on what's for dinner and a republic is a well armed sheep seminar for his rights or something to that effect it's a recurring thing because it's important that we put the moccasin in perspective democracy is bad for minorities definition it is the majority violently getting the sanction i got rather getting the sanction to violently impose its will minorities are next comment comes from surfer fifty three writes knowing what idiots many voters are why are we broadcasting that it's wrong post birth they provide attention to his age but we do this common ron paul needs to about a regular well i just couldn't resist whipping out a reagan is even if someone else wrote it reagan said this is by the way in the debate against walter mondale is brilliant stroke of genius because people were at the time as they should have been according to the history that came out of his all simers concerned about his age and he said i will see he was asked by the moderator if age was an appropriate issue for the campaign and reagan r

case of the japanese americans in fact underlines most strongly those wise wards attributed to benjamin franklin who said those who give up sensual liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. thanks for listening. let's have a little discussion. [applause] >> yes. [inaudible question] >> the question is, was there any actual evidence that led to the confinement? this is a key question, very intelligent question and key question, because michelle milkan and those who falled her have claimed the u.s. intercepts of the japanese diplomatic code displayed mass espionage by japanese americans. my contention is they don't show any such thing. they show pious hopes by japanese authorities who are recruiting spies, that they could get to recruit japanese americans, and even if there had been evidence of that, it was not shown to the people who made the actual decisions on the ground. the best answer i can come up with is, no. the best evidence is that there was no actual evidence of any sabotage by any japanese american on the west coast, and this is one area where t

of all people, benjamin franklin. in his petition is turned down by the committee. there's a great story were alexander hamilton -- i don't think it's true, but alexander hamilton said i deny franklin's petition because the united states of america will not be reliant on any foreign power. whether hamilton said that or not, i don't think he did, but it's still a great lie. it turned out not because they reject the idea, they had a minister during the continental congress. so you know, this is -- the point is here sprinkling, a guy who -- deist of the call upon god to intervene in some ways. so that is my argument at least. they were christians by no means. most of them were. at least the major five. i don't think they were deist either. it occupies the middle ground. >> i've largely forgotten education, but i remember mrs. scott in seventh grade at franklin city public schools, her discussion about number seven team and those in virginia. my question is, since i've moved to god faker -- that's a quote, is not is how would the virginians delegation able to convince to

of all people, benjamin franklin. in his petition is turned down by the committee. here's a great story were alexander hamilton -- i don't think it's true, but alexander hamilton said i deny franklin's petition because the united states of america will not be reliant on any foreign power. whether hamilton said that or not, i don't think he did, but it's still a great lie. it turned out not because they reject the idea, they had a minister during the continental congress. so you know, this is -- the point is here sprinkling, a guy who -- deist of the call upon god to intervene in some ways. so that is my argument at least. they were christians by no means. most of them were. at least the major five. i don't think they were deist either. it occupies the middle ground. >> i've largely forgotten education, but i remember mrs. scott in seventh grade at franklin city public schools, her discussion about number seven team and those in virginia. my question is, since i've moved to god faker -- that's a quote, is not is how would the virginians delegation able to convince to

of all people, benjamin franklin. in his petition is turned down by the committee. there's a great story were alexander hamilton -- i don't think it's true, but alexander hamilton said i deny franklin's petition because the united states of america will not be reliant on any foreign power. whether hamilton said that or not, i don't think he did, but it's still a great lie. it turned out not because they reject the idea, they had a minister during the continental congress. so you know, this is -- the point is here sprinkling, a guy who -- deist of the call upon god to intervene in some ways. so that is my argument at least. they were christians by no means. most of them were. at least the major five. i don't think they were deist either. it occupies the middle ground. >> i've largely forgotten education, but i remember mrs. scott in seventh grade at franklin city public schools, her discussion about number seven team and those in virginia. my question is, since i've moved to god faker -- that's a quote, is not is how would the virginians delegation able to convince to

he said benjamin franklin.as surprised when i asked myself that question, i would have said the same thing. >> really? i understand there was a special guest in your interview. >> yes, bo the first dog came in. it was so incredible. the dog just walked up. ran in up to the president and the president sat down. the dog was a bit nervous and antsy because of all the people in the room. it was very nice. >> i understand the president also left you with a present which you've brought me today, i see, a gift for me? what are these? >> they are part of a goody bag that the president gave me. this one's plain, this one's peanut. what's special about them is on the back they have the presidential seal and also the manufactured signature of the president and the president himself gave them to me. it was very, very awesome. >> you're at least going to let me taste what the presidential m&ms taste like. >> sure. >> maybe during the break. >> now that you've interviewed the president who is your next big interview? who do

it's never anything like after some digging, i found out, tig, that you are benjamin franklin. [ laughterz, and i'll look at it. it's like, "your grandfather was the first chair of the sailboat society." yeah, i don't care. [ laughter ] all i know is i want to be the first cousin immediately removed from this e-mailing. [ laughter and applause ] on my flight out here, i was seated in the emergency exit row, and the flight attendant was like, "you know, i was just wondering if in the event of an emergency you'd be willing to help out. " i was like, "yeah, totally. if you need anything, you come grab me. [ laughter ] but i was just wondering if maybe we could wait and see what kind of shape i'm in after the plane plummets 30,000 feet." [ laughter ] like, i don't kif

benjamin franklin's famous words were basically handing you a republic if you can keep it.nd i think we're at a really, really precarious point, the likes of which people don't fully grasp or understand. >> in a way, you were the very first kind of leader of the tea party before it was formed into a proper revolutionary party. when you have seen what has happened to america, and you have seen the emergence of the tea party as a proper political force, do you feel a slight twinge of regret you're not at the forefront of this? there is an amazing and real fuel with the tea party that i don't think people fully grasp. i think a lot of people think that's about spending. but i think it's really about much, much deeper american values. one is fundamental angst about opportunity. you know, the beauty of the american system is that it provides opportunity. and there is this long-held belief that i did so well, my kids are going to do better than that, my grandkids are going to do better than that. i think the part of the fuel that has fuelled the tea party is people really calling

the case t of the japanese-americans underlines most strongly those wise wordsis attributed to benjamin franklin. those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. so thank you for listening. let's have a little bit of discussion. [applause] [applause] >> yes, sir. [inaudible question] >> the question is, was there any actual evidence that led to the confinement? this was a key question because michele malkin and those who followed her have claimed that the magic intercepts of the u.s. intercepts of the japanese diplomatic code displayed massce espionage by japanese-americans. my contention is that, in fact,n they don't show any such thing. they show pious hopes by japanese authorities who are recruiting spies that they coula get to recruit japanesey americans and that even if there had been evidence of that it committee was not shown to theee people who made the actual decisions on the d ground. t the best answer i can come upp with is no. th the best evidence is that there is no actual evidence of any a sabotage by any japanese american

i want to end this by saying, benjamin franklin, who had the very first political cartoon, would be weeping if he saw the atrocities on the mall this weekend. >> why do you think he was so successful? >> glenn beck? >> uh-huh. >> i think that there is a void right now that needs to be filled when it comes to television news and when it comes to media and information. i think people are still hungry for it but there are obviously a lot of fears that are easy to play upon in american society right now, be it xenophobea, we deal with immigration or of course xenophobea when it comes to islamaphobia as well because of 9/11 and all the uncertainty with the economy and i do think that people want somebody that they can relate to and listen to and like i said, i think he pulled the right strings and learned how to play upon those fears. that's one model that is successful. whereas the rest of the media, you see that they're struggling. cnn is changing their lineup and trying new shows left and right and none of that is working for them. like i said, you have the other networks that are hiring peop

a sort of amoral benjamin franklin. an absolute genius who also was a complete -- but you know, i ended up cutting pages and pages out of the final manuscript. i would get so fascinated by these people and you can only tell so much of the story. eyes on the prize is my wife kept reminding me. anyone else? yes? back there. >> is there any mention in your book about his feelings about nature? i remember there was a story about a rattlesnake and not killing mosquitoes around the campfire? >> thanks for mentioning that. yet this hindu ascetic law to him and again these are stories that i should've mentioned. the famous story where he presumably stepped on a rattlesnake and a rattlesnake bit him and he dug his side into it and came back instinctively and he came back and said the only recorded distance of killing an animal and he came back and saw dead on the ground. he was devastated by what he had done. the other story about putting out the fire so the mosquitoes wouldn't be burned. you and i are pushing them towards the f

this speech after labor day is that much more important, not just the speech as benjamin franklin oncent's got to say it well and do it. if he focuses on the economy and gets things moving again, whether it's jeb bush or romney or huntsman. i don't always agree with howard dean but he's right. people agree with obama but he's got to get the economy moving. jeb bush said he's made the situation worse. he's got to make it better. if he doesn't make it better, huntsman, bush they are going to be formidable candidates next year. >> andrea, it raises the question, what the president can do over the next 12 months to change not just the approval number, but the unemployment number. he's got a big speech coming up after labor day. what can he do big? >> that's the challenge. there's not only the problem that even economists can't agree on what to be done short term. there are a lot of ideas for what can be done down the road. to get the numbers down in time for the re-election campaign, that's almost impossible even if you do stimulus and infrastructure and hiring. you are not going to make a

guest: thinking back to your history, it was reported that benjamin franklin leaving independence hall after the writing of the constitution was asked by a crowd -- the woman supposedly said, "what kind of government have you given us?" he said, "a republic, madam." those conditions and gave rise to liberty in this country. i think, an exciting challenge for our day. to prove, once again to the world, that americans are the kind of people who can act individually to elalead responsible lives of their own and do not need the government to constantly protect them and shelter them and coddle them. because we are that kind of people, we can act together collectively in a free democratic system to make important decisions, not to spend our children's money before they earn it, not to bankrupt the future for the benefit of the president. host: i want to read one of the more different introduction to the book. guest: i guess that was a warning to the reader that if they were looking for something typical, at least as i observed boos' books,official's this one would be different. i said no i d

think about benjamin franklin. what he said. we won't continue to abuse it to the point where we have to stop borrowing money. the natural limits of our capacity -- we'll reach a point in a few years where lenders will stop lending us money. we could go from paying $250 million a year in interest. to more like $1 trillion a year in interest right down the tubes. the difference could be just a few years of interest rates returning to normal average rates. that by it self could put it on the course in a few years. the white house acknowledges that we are maybe 10 years away from that. the white house has assumed and made assumptions on interest rates that are unduly optimistic. >> good morning. i'm from the lone star college system of houston, texas. where would you like to see government spending and what would you hope to be protected from cuts in our spending? >> great question. first of all, cuts are going to have to be considered and made to some extent across the board in every category. i've been holding it back for some ti

a sort of amoral benjamin franklin.an absolute genius who also was a complete -- but you know, i ended up cutting pages and pages out of the final manuscript. i would get so fascinated by these people and you can only tell so much of the story. eyes on the prize is my wife kept reminding me. anyone else? yes? back there. >> is there any mention in your book about his feelings about nature? i remember there was a story about a rattlesnake and not killing mosquitoes around the campfire? >> thanks for mentioning that. yet this hindu ascetic law to him and again these are stories that i should've mentioned. the famous story where he presumably stepped on a rattlesnake and a rattlesnake bit him and he dug his side into it and came back instinctively and he came back and said the only recorded distance of killing an animal and he came back and saw dead on the ground. he was devastated by what he had done. the other story about putting out the fire so the mosquitoes wouldn't be burned. you and i are pushing them towards the fi

a sort of amoral benjamin franklin. an absolute genius who also was a complete -- but you know, i ended up cutting pages and pages out of the final manuscript. i would get so fascinated by these people and you can only tell so much of the story. eyes on the prize is my wife kept reminding me. anyone else? yes? back there. >> is there any mention in your book about his feelings about nature? i remember there was a story about a rattlesnake and not killing mosquitoes around the campfire? >> thanks for mentioning that. yet this hindu ascetic law to him and again these are stories that i should've mentioned. the famous story where he presumably stepped on a rattlesnake and a rattlesnake bit him and he dug his side into it and came back instinctively and he came back and said the only recorded distance of killing an animal and he came back and saw dead on the ground. he was devastated by what he had done. the other story about putting out the fire so the mosquitoes wouldn't be burned. you and i are pushing them towards the f

now, the discussion of a document between thomas jefferson and benjamin franklin was over that last part of the phrase. possession of property didn't seem quite moral enough for the most radical experiment in human freedom in the history of the world. they changed it to the pursuit of happiness because they wanted to move from materialism -- from materialism to morality. from property to pursuit. and it's time for us to make that change once again today, to remember a very founding concept of this country. modern social science research shows that our founders were right. if you want to convince people to stand up for freedom, if you want free enterprise to be paramount in our understanding of the economy, you better talk about morals, fundamental new economic and social science research shows that people are more rash -- are less rational and more moral. that the parts of the brain that actually process morality will crowd out rational thinking and make moral pronouncements first. sometimes hours earlier. this is how we have to talk to people. and our experience shows this is how big ch

benjamin franklin will cheat without screw poll who can without fear. we need to set the limits, but the regional, but the mathematical economic limits of the borrowing capacity. we'll reach a point when lenders will stop lending. those who will will demand a much higher yield. yousuch that we could go from paying $250 billion in interest to money right down the tubes to more like $1 trillion a year in interest. right down the tubes. the difference should be just a few years of interest rating returning to normal historical average rates. that by itself could put us on that course in just a few years. the white house acknowledges that we're maybe ten years away from that. i think it's going to occur much sooner than that. because i think the white house has assumed -- has made assumptions based on interest rates undually optimistic. >> i'm from the lone star college system of houston texas. i would like to know, where would you like to see government spending cuts begin, and what do you hope to be kind of protected from cuts from our spending? >> great

it reminds me of what benjamin franklin would have sent -- either we hang together or most assertively and we will hang away from each other. we should contemplate what we want this program to be for the 21st century, and we need to think about how we are going to pay for it. we should use our time wisely. as president eisenhower said, the choice is ours to make. >> thank you. i thought it was eisenhower. you surprise me on that. we all would have felt the exam. it is fascinating to think about how long ago that was said, and how much oil grown since then, and now what worst problems we now face. to let pericenter sessions. >> i will offer my statement for the record, and would like to congratulate you and senator inhofe for putting together the framework that answers the questions our state highway director race when he testified here. you have made some progress in a lot of different ways. i know how significant financial situations are and if we can maintain the funding level that you have recommended i think it would be something i can support. i say that very seriously because a l

the discussion of the document between thomas jefferson and benjamin franklin was over that last part of the phrase. possession of property did not seem quite moral enough for the most radical experiment in human freedom in the history of the world. they changed it to the pursuit of happiness because they wanted to move from materialism, from mark -- materialism to morality, from property to proceed. it is time for us to make that change once again. to remember the very founding concept of this country. modern social science research shows our founders were right. you want to convince people to stand up for freedom. if you want free enterprise to be paramount in our understanding of the economy, you had better talk about morals. fundamental new economic and social science research show that people are less rational and more immoral. the parts of the brain that process morality will crowd out rational thinking and make moral hoursuncements sometimes ou earlier. our experience shows that this is how big changes in policy happened. for many years, in the 1960's and 1970's, this country w

it reminds me of benjamin franklin, either we hang together otherwise we hang separately.i think it's true of the highway bill too. we need to hang together to get a good national bill. we need to contemplate what we want the bill to be for the 21st century, and we have to think about how we're going to pay for it. we should use the time wisely, and as president johnson said, the choice is ours to make. thank you, madam chairman. >> thank you so much. i thought it was eisenhower, so you surprised me on that. >> eisenhower was the highway bill, the interstate system. >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> we all would have failed the exam. that's embarrassing, but it's fascinating to think how long ago that was said, and think about how much we've grown since then and what problems we now face. thank you so much. senator sessions. >> thank you. i'll offer my statement for the record and just congratlation you and senator inhofe for putting to the a framework that really answered some of the questions our state highway director raised when he testified here, so you made some progress