joining me now, benjamin hardy, associate editor with "arkansas times." interesting yesterday as we waited for governor pence to speak, he was on fox news standing firm regarding that law. by the time the news conference happened he was ready to propose a clarification of his state's law. might we see a change with governor hutchinson in arkansas? >> well it is possible. we don't know. we have to wait and see in the press conference. i think a lot has changed since hutchinson said last week he would support it. walmart ceo weighing in hasn't hurt but there's a tremendous amount of pressure from the business community and other quarters. he is in a dilemma about what to do with the bill. >> you mention walmart. let's talk about the influence that store not only has nationally but particularly in arkansas. this is a major part of the reason we saw transition or change in indiana. what kind of power does walmart have there? >> well i mean walmart has a lot of power nationally obviously, but within the state of arkansas its economic influence can't be oversta

joining me now, benjamin hardy, associate editor with "arkansas times."