the political figures in my cohort are the presidents: john tyler, benjamin harrison, martin van buren, john calhoun, daniel webster, henry clay. these are the--the political stars of this generation. c-span: where did you write the book--what part of the country? >> guest: in los angeles--west los angeles. c-span: what do you do out there? >> guest: i teach history. c-span: at--at... >> guest: the university of california at los angeles. c-span: ucla. >> guest: ucla, yeah. c-span: how long have you done that? >> guest: i've taught history for 33 years and i've been at ucla since 1981. c-span: why history? >> guest: you know, i think--i have a theory about people and why they become what they become. i think there are about four basic ways to understand reality or understand the world. one of them is, obviously. through measuring and it, you know, it appeals to people who are--who be--who become scientists of observation and measurement. another one is clearly a religious sensibility. there's also, i think, a poetic and imaginative way of grasping reality. and another is to understand