joining me now to crunch all these numbers is benjamin morris of espn's 538 blog.enjamin, thank you for being here. a critic might say that these athletes are protected by the nfl or by police and consequently that's why when they have a scrape with the law it never gets reported, it never gets written up. >> pretty much two things you can tell from the data. and one is that at the very least they're not doing worse than the national average, but on the other, they definitely seem to be doing worse than similarly situated people in the national average. they have virtually zero poverty rate and yet city have reasonably high domestic violence arrest rate. that's very rare. >> i was going to ask that question. domestic violence. how does the nfl, how do the member teams of the nfl, their players, compare to society at large, the 25 to 27-year-olds? >> like low lower than society at large. at the very least, certainly not higher than society at large. >> so oh do you buy into the idea that it's the media that oh -- there's a problem. one domestic abuse case is one too

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