benjamin rush of philadelphia gives us the moral and physical thermometer. re some of the insights that rush gives us here. and this would be a bit of a warning. we're moving into the darker portion of our program. and if you are a water drinker, then i want to tell you, things are looking good for you, because i can predict health and wealth, serenity of mind and reputation, long life and happiness. what more could you want. >> where is that on the thermometer? >> it's up there, number 70, at the very top. but benjamin rush is not an absolutist. he's not like those people that make ed's century and brian's even more -- a pretty grim affair. he's not a prohibitionist. he said you can drink small beer. now, that's only 1%. you can follow me down, which is actually up. we should turn it upside down -- well, down is right. >> i'm getting dizzy here, peter. >> oh, man. >> maybe that's right here. >> you go to cider, that could be 5%, 7%. wine, you know wine, they can be 10%, 12%. po with beer, things are still okay. and this is the takeaway for us moderate drinke

and 1784, benjamin rush, of philadelphia, gives us the moral and physical thermometer. ere. and this would be a bit of a warning. we're moving into the darker portion of our program. and if you are a water drinker, then i want to tell you things are looking good for you because i can predict health and wealth, long life and happiness. what more could you want. >> where was that? >> it's up there number 70 at the very top. benjamin rush is not an absolutist. he's not like those people that make ed's century and brian's even more a grim affair. he's not a prohibitionist. he says you can drink small beer. that's only 1%. you can follow me down, which is actually up, we should turn it upside down because, well, zoun right. you're going down. >> wait, i'm getting dizzy, peter. >> oh, man. maybe that's -- >> you go to cider, that could be 5%, 7%. wine, you know wine, that would be 10, 12. porter, strong beer, things are still okay and this is the important take away for us moderate drinkers as we were up until the third one here. and it is, if you incorporate this into a healt

. >> what about benjamin rush's idea of moderation? i get excited about cheerfulness, strength and nourishment. >> no. because you've shown in the first decades of the 19th century you cannot be trusted to drink in moderation. alcohol is out of control. we have the machinery to deliver as much alcohol as people can drink. it's being mass produced, we're going to have to find ways to get this under control. >> who is going to control this? >> we prefer that you control it yourself. >> no way. >> i think early on that's the way we think slavery is going to come to an end as well. and so we'll begin by just talking to you a lot. trying to persuade you of this. if that doesn't work we'll do -- >> i did that with my kids. didn't work out so well. >> by the 1850s, maine has decided that's not going to work, so going to pass a state law that's going to make it illegal so. you have prohibition in the 1850s. so even as we know, peter says they didn't know the revolution was coming. they don'ts know the civil war's coming. if you see the things

we talked about the end of a moderate temperance of benjamin rush and this embrace of the absolutism of yes or no, and that's very much in the sigh codynamics of the conversion experience, it's been a resource for those heavy drinking tlrkts is a lot of heavy drinking in the lower income stra the, and that's precisely why a commitment not to drink is so powerful and so appealing, it's the privileged types at the top who have always from the beginning imported wine and drunk moderately, well not always. >> what we call social drinking. >> exactly right. social drinking is really class coated. >> so it is all tangled in with american politics and religion. i think as we think about an issue that we might be privileged to have a chance to talk with with fellow historians and fellow at least temporary milwaukeeans here, actually to have been a good choice. >> alcohol explains everything if i'm not mistaken. the expansion of the federal government. >> and that it's bankrupting. >> it does. but, as always, we'd love to keep the conversation going. pay us a visit and let you know what you t

one signer of the declaration was benjamin rush who was a doctor in philadelphia and a great patriot but he believed in this bleeding pherae. he was talked in at number which is a source of that and philadelphia got a yellow fever in 1793 which was horrible. 5,000 people died. everybody who could took off. the old government just fled. he was leading his patients. the human body had twice as much blood blood as it did. so he was taking blood out of people and killing people because he is weakening demand debilitating them. alexander hamilton stated philadelphia to work. he is a type a personality. the got yellow fever. it reads stevens slightly older. stevens didn't know how to cure yellow fever. hamilton road it out and live the. >> host: comments on how seriously mr. washington took his involvement with freemasonry. >> guest: that is the second most common question asked about washington. did he head to mount vernon? surprised -- he took it pretty seriously. when he laid the cornerstone, the capital as president it was a masonic ceremonies and he wore his masonic paper. washington

one of the signers of the declaration was a man named benjamin rush, and he was a doctor in philadelphia. he was a great patriot, but he believed in this bleeding theory, he'd been taught in edinborough. so when philadelphia got the yellow fever epidemic in 1793 which was just horrible, 5,000 people dies in a city of 30,000 people. everybody who could took off. i mean, the whole government, they just fled. and rushed, you know, he was bleeding, and he thought the human body had twice as much blood as it did. so he's taking the blood out of these people and weakening them all. alexander hamilton stayed in philadelphia to work, you know? he's the type a personality. he got the yellow fever. he went to a doctor who was a childhood friend from st. croix, a man named edward stevens, and stevens didn't know how to your yellow fever east, but he just treated the fever symptoms. he just gave him things to bring the fever down and then hamilton rode it out and he lived. >> host: would mr. brookhiser please comment on how seriously mr. washington took his involvement with free masonry? that's from

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but now benjamin net tan t-- netanyahu is getting a lot of push back. >> also not rush for certain militaryntial at this point. >> reporter: but it goes beyond olmir. i ran has not decided to go the extra mile in making a bomb. and listen to what mayor dagon former director of the israeli intelligence. >> an attack on iran, before you're exploring all other aappropriates is not the right way how to do. >> reporter: the governor also called iran's regime irrational. i talked with doug miller who advised six secretaries of states, democrats and republicans on the middle east. >> there's more serious talk about attacking iran. why is that? >> because you have a political community that is deeply divided. i think people understand exactly how risky this is, how consequential it might be, if there's no success, and there's a lot of confusion as to what success actually means. >> reporter: his defense minister ahud barack is at his side all the time. when a syrian nuclear facility was bombed in 2007 by israel, and in 1991 when israel bombed hussein's nuclear reactor in iraq, no one said anything

benjamin netanyahu is that the iranians have not yet decided to go ahead and build a nuclear bomb, that they're very rational and they're considering all of this deliberately and there seems to be no rushe that this is rational what iran is doing, but i also think that we also recognize that iran is not going to publish a memo when they make the decision to go to nuclear weapon capability. they will not be posting it so no one will know when they actually do. that's israel's conundrum. that's their problem. they can't wait until iran is already nuclear weapon capable because there is no reaction time on israel's part. israel has to have the right to create survival for itself. that's really where they're at right now. we're in a very difficult place. i don't think israel wants to in any way have to attack iran, but it's very clear iran hasn't taken -- this is easy to solve, honestly. it's easy to solve. iran has to surrender the enriched uranium. they have to stop and cease all production of enriched uranium and they need to dismantle some of the nuclear weaponsis facilities and have open doors on inspecs. do that and the rest of the world will provide isotopes they want for cancer res