. >> bennett miller: to be totally honest with you, right after our first lunch, something inside of me just clicked. you know, the coin dropped and i thought, "oh, i could see that. i want that." >> kroft: what happened at the lunch? what did he do during the lunch? what did he say during the lunch that made you think that he was right? >> miller: deadly serious. deadly, deadly serious. somebody who had read the script and had done some research. and part of it is a commitment, knowing that you're both feet in. and that it might not necessarily be easy, but that, "i get it. and whatever it takes."

. >> rose: boris johnson, steve carell, vanessa redgrave, channing tatum, director bennett miller and essayist daphne merkin when we continue. funding for charlie rose is provided by the following: additional funding provided by: and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: boris johnson is here. he is, as you know, the mayor of london. he has served in that role since 2008. this summer he announced his intention to stand for election to the united kingdom parliament in the 2015 general elections. a lot of people read a lot into that. his latest book is about winston churchill. it is called "the churchill factor: how one man-made history" ""the wall street journal" reports there is a long history of ambitious burn shall their leadership credentials from profiles in courage to the audacity-of-hope that is from john f. kennedy to barack obama. the churchill book is more like jfk's than obama. it drops aical asal hint about candidacy. all from "the wall street journal". he would deny

. >> jimmy: i got to say, "foxcatcher," directed by bennett miller.y: such a great movie. i didn't know that it was a a real story. i didn't know anything about it at all. >> yeah. >> jimmy: just a rich guy wants to coach the olympics wrestling team? >> basically, yeah. >> jimmy: and so he pays and the olympics go, okay. and this is -- this guy, but he is like a wacko. >> yes. >> jimmy: i mean, you got to see, steve carell is insane. >> yeah. >> jimmy: he's amazing. >> completely transforms himself. >> jimmy: channing tatum, amazing. >> incredible. >> jimmy: and you, i have to say i, just -- >> crap. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you were so good. and honestly they were great, they were both amazing performers. but you, i go, oh my god. i've never seen you -- i mean, you are such great actor but i have never seen you better. >> thank you. >> jimmy: i really thought you were great. >> oh, he -- his arm is literally the size of my torso. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: he is the hulk. when you transform into the hulk, you become -- >> i play the hulk in a movie, and he

uh, thanks bennett miller. >> jimmy: sorry, yeah, yeah. bennett miller. yeah.it's a true story. so i mean you -- when you meet the people that really lived this, it just, it kind of takes it to a whole other level of just -- it's important, serious. you know? these people have to live their lives even after this movie comes out. you just want to, you know, make them proud. >> jimmy: but also you see this guy, he won the gold medal, am i wrong? >> yeah. yeah. both of them did. >> jimmy: in the olympics. >> both brothers. same olympics. >> jimmy: and then he starts off, you're in like in an apartment like, just trying to live. >> yeah. >> jimmy: taking gigs. showing up at high schools for $10 or whatever. >> yeah. olympic athletes even now, i mean, they kind of devote some of their best years of their life to their sport and to their discipline. and then after it's over it's like, okay, well, what do i do now? and these guys were barely just, you know, rubbing two pennies together to keep it going. and this guy, john dupont came in that really just offered these

bennett miller took an extreme amount of time making this scene real. it's real wrestling in the film and mark ruffalo took on everything the way dave picked up a cup, the way he walked. it was nice to be able to share my husband's memory. >> how does ruffalo learn how your late husband picked up the cup? >> i was on the set three or four times during the shooting but was able to meet with him and provide home movies and bennett miller had lots of film from the life on the farm so every actor could learn how to get into those character approximates. >> tell me what people will learn about your late husband from watching this movie. >> i think they're going to learn the sport of wrestling and its struggles, that it's a more complicated and technical sport than they knew before, that my husband was a kind and generous man, and that the life at the fox catcher estate was an interesting and tumultuous time. >> steve carell's work was quite a departure from his previous work but he refused to meet with you. why was that? >> we met outside the set. but each o

it is a film that bennett miller is trying to make for eight years. >> i just knew that it was something i wanted to do i knew it was so bizarre, these characters were so bizarre. >> not sure he wants to see the film is dupont's lawyer and confident who often spoke with him three times a way. and his wife broke the news of the shooting at fox catcher. >> i stayed is john ok? and she said no, they're saying that he shot dave. i said what? >> a two-day standoff at fox catcher followed with dupont barricaded inside. the police tackled him as he finally emerged to check on furnas they shut off. and they witnessed his bizarre behavior the years leading up to the murder. >> ungrateful ape. >> they tried to get themselves psychiatric help but they never thought it would end with murder. >> i am not sure that i or anyone else would have been able to put pieces together and say, you know, this is a program for a killing. nobody thought that. >> dupont eventually found guilty but mentally ill and sentenced to 13 to 30 years in prison. he died in 2010, but the saga continues. dupont left 80% of his

schultz's wife nancy and director bennett miller attended the premier tonight.ve carell, chaning tatum and mark ruffalo star in this film which opens to the public november 21st. it's going to be a good one. we'll be right bac >> we thank you for watching "eyewitness news" at 11:00 o'clock. we're back tomorrow morning at 4:30 with ukee washington and erika von tiehl. for beasley, kathy and everyone here at "eyewitness news" i'm chris may. >> i'm jessica dean. remember we're always on at cbsphilly.com. the late show with david letterman is next with martin shore. have a good night. we'll see you tomorrow. ♪ ( band playing "late show" theme ) >> from the heart of broadway, broadcasting across the nation and around the world, it's the "late show" with david letterman. tonight... plus paul shaffer and the cbs orchestra. i'm alan kalter. captioning sponsored by worldwide pants and cbs

schultz's wife nancy and director bennett miller attended the premier tonight.ve carell, chaning tatum and mark ruffalo star in this film which opens to the public november 21st. it's going to be a good one. we'll be right back.

. >> with me are the director, bennett miller, and three of the stars, steve carell, channing tatum, and vanessa redgrave. >> at the supermarket, someone gave me clippings containing the this story and it took me almost no time after reading the first clipping that i knew it was something i wanted to do. it was only long time ago, back on it, there are elements of my other films. it has these pathetic characters that have been alienated. this particular one has an allegory underneath it that spoke to me. it had something to do with class and wealth and entitlement and country, family. there are so many things woven into it and i just cannot put it down. >> sounds like a bit of shakespeare. >> it did to me. i read the script and i thought it was incredible. the opportunity to work with bennett was a huge component. because his work speaks for itself. he is really good. to be a part of that world is an honor. he tends to cast against the grain. i think, in terms of me, i do not think i was on any list for this role. and i think that bennett took a chance. >> why did you cast him? >> be

it's a film director bennett miller was trying to make for 8 years. >> it was something i wanted to do, these characters were so bizarre. >> reporter: his lawyer said he often spoke to him three times a day. >> i said is john okay? >> she said no, they are saying that he shot dave. i said what? >> reporter: a two day stand off followed with dupont bar indicated inside, police tackled when he emerged to check on a furnace to shut off. many witnessed his bizarre behavior in the years leading up to the murder. they tried to get him help, but he disappeared every time they set up an appointment. he said they never thought it would end with murder. >> i'm not sure that i or anyone else would put pieces together and say this is a program for a killing. nobody saw that. >> reporter: dupont was eventually found guilty, but mentally i will and sentenced 13 to 30 years in prison. he died in 2010. dupont left 80% of his vast estate to bulgarian wrestler. the lawyer and others control the other 20% they say they will set up a mental health foundation. dave shultz family sued dupont estate and live

murder that many of you may remember, it is hitting the big screen, talking with the director bennett miller about the film's foxcatcher. >> boy, i remember that 96 indeed, yes. >> next on cbs this morning, terminally ill teen chasing basketball dreams finally get her wish. we'll s newspapers speak out. tom corbett has been something of a disaster. tom corbett cut spending on education by a billion dollars... it's time for a change. elect tom wolf, and you'll get the type of governor we haven't seen for a while... ...one who looks out for average, hard-working pennsylvanians. it's wolf who has solid ideas for bringing in new business and for boosting the economy. tom wolf for governor, a fresh start for pennsylvania. it is monday, november 3rd, 2014. welcome to "cbs this morning." the young woman who sparked a national debate over the right to die ends her own life. >> nuclears in the deadly explosion of the virgin galactic spaceship. richard branson joins us live. >>> radicals. footage from last night's interview you have not seen. >>> but we begin this morning with today's "eye opener," yo

bennett miller joins thus morning to preview his latest project, foxcatcher.u. >> women come. >> i remember thinking back in 96, while working here, that one day this film will probably be on the big screen. that day has come. what were your immediate thoughts when you first heard the storey? >> well, i didn't learn about the story until about eight years ago. and i was curious, i was fascinated, it just seemed bizarre, and it is the casino every thing that could have been a comedy if it hadn't ended horribly. >> dave schultz being shot. >> and i was curious about the transaction, like what -- what did one of the wealthiest men in the world want with his wrestling team, and, you know, what was the understanding between them? >> was it difficult to bring to the big screen? >> yes. it took, you know, eight years, for it to happen, mostly because the support, the financial support to get the film made. >> odd story. speak speaking of the story for new generation, can you explain the try angular dynamic of the three main characters, and of course, tragically endin

. >> bennett miller: to be totally honest with you, right after our first lunch, something inside ofn dropped and i thought, "oh, i could see that. i want that." >> kroft: what happened at the lunch? what did he do during the lunch? what did he say during the lunch that made you think that he was right? >> miller: deadly serious. deadly, deadly serious. somebody who had read the script and had done some research. and part of it is a commitment knowing that you're both feet in. and that it might not necessarily be easy, but that, "i get it. and whatever it takes." >> kroft: what it took was three months of long days on a lonely shoot with a small cast and crew outside pittsburgh. they would go over and often rework scenes well into the early morning hours. there was not much time for small talk. did you stay in character? >> carell: not in an actor-y sort of way, but i think inadvertently, we all sort of did. >> kroft: some of it had to do with carell's makeup. he was almost always the first one on the set, because it took three hours to apply. he wore it all day until the shooting wa

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>> working with bennett miller.>> he said this role was outside of your comfort zone. >> for sure. i don't think i was on anybody's list for this kind of part. i wasn't campaigning for it. apparently my agent submitted my name and gave him pause and thought about it. we met, and he offered me the part. >> and you said the chance to work with him is all i need. >> huge. and i didn't know if i could do it, but the fact he thought i could, was enough. >> it was clear you could do it, and this story has so many different layers to it. i was struck by how much of the story is told without any dialogue at all and the looks and the glances. >> it's very spare. very economical in the pauses. there's a sense that you get from the movie. and i think bennett is really adept at that in particular. >> the new yorker calls your nose the fourth main character in the film. >> yes. >> and you know, you have some good company there. our crack research team found out, did, you know, that there are actually three other oscar winners wh

also, ohio state's defensive line with bennett, washington, bosa, even steve miller they have held up their end of the bargain, as well. >> chris: third and ten. they bring four. cook fires over the middle, complete at the 42 yard line. they'll move the chains. kings made the catch. michigan state, 14-game big ten win streak in big trouble. ohio state continues to play very well as an underdog. again kings makes the catch. there at the buckeyes 40. last seven times ohio state's been an underdog, they did very well. previous six, they won four of them. >> kirk: urban meyer does a good job to get his team to play with a chip on their shoulder. sometimes he invents reasonis - >> chris: oh, that's a diving pick by powell -- they're going to rule it incomplete. cook's leg was being grabbed as he delivered it. what an attempt by powell. >> kirk: again, that defensive line got pressure on him. powell, i think -- as he comes down, it's a matter if he got his hands under that football before it hit the ground. ball did appear to hit the ground. his hands were behind the ball. >> referee: the p

also, ohio state's defensive line with bennett, washington, bosa, even steve miller they have held up their end of the bargain, as well. >> chris: third and ten. they bring four. cook fires over the middle, complete at the 42 yard line. they'll move the chains. kings made the catch. michigan state, 14-game big ten win streak in big trouble. ohio state continues to play very well as an underdog. again kings makes the catch. there at the buckeyes 40. last seven times ohio state's been an underdog, they did very well. previous six, they won four of them. >> kirk: urban meyer does a good job to get his team to play with a chip on their shoulder. sometimes he invents reasonis - >> chris: oh, that's a diving pick by powell -- they're going to rule it incomplete. cook's leg was being grabbed as he delivered it. what an attempt by powell. >> kirk: again, that defensive line got pressure on him. powell, i think -- as he comes down, it's a matter if he got his hands under that football before it hit the ground. ball did appear to hit the ground. his hands were behind the ball. >> referee: the p