>> bennie thompson's people have estimated that we could do not everything but we could ensure the survival of the electrical grid by a cost of $4 to $5 billion a year every year and you do it over a period over four or five years. there's some question as to whether to order all the parts to do work -- you can't do it all at once but you can't do a significant amount every year and just do it over a five-year period and pray that the threat doesn't materialize until then. >> i have to respond to one thing and i'm not trying to do this as some sort of overdramatized emotional appeal but part of the inspiration for this novel. we had two hurricanes crisscross my town five years ago. ivan was one of them. blew everything out. .. the respirator my father is on, what do we do? they said we have some bottle they're here. suppose we run out of bottled air, we give you a squeeze bottle to put over the face. and i said, in other words -- i get tired and i stop, my father dies. that is what we're talking about. that is the reality i try to bring into the book. that is what we are all personally conf

the two people to watch are bennie thompson the chairman of the house homeland security committee. he put out a very strong statement today. he said the revelation in ridge's book is confirmation of what we suspected. the bush white house exploited american fears about future attacks. that is a strong statement. we have heard nothing from the senate chairman of the homeland security committee. that's joe lieberman. my guess is, i don't speak for lieberman, believe me, i'm not a big fan of his, it will be interesting to see if senator lieberman takes this. he wrote the bill that created the homeland security. i think those two guys will be important to watch. >> anderson, two points. one, if every time cabinet secretaries have a debate in a white house meeting we are going to open an investigation, this city is going to be closed for business whether it is a democrat or republican administration. second, i have to tell you, i find it unseemly, tom ridge is going to release this book on the eve of the eighth anniversary and take advantage of a time that is really still a raw moment i